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European Hallmark?

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 8:00 am
by Jamenzo
I have a canteen of cutlery with hallmarks I’m unsure of. Can anyone please help with some info.
Many thanks,
James
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Re: European Hallmark?

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 8:54 am
by AG2012
Hi,
This is the coat of arms of Hungarian Lonay family - nine pearls in the crown = Graff or Count.
(Count Menyhért Lónyay de Nagylónya et Vásárosnamény was the Prime minister of Hungary from 1871 to 1872.
For Diana`s head mark see here:
https://www.925-1000.com/Faustria_02.html
Try to identify the letter (assay office).
Regards

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Re: European Hallmark?

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 9:05 am
by Jamenzo
AG2012 wrote:Hi,
This is the coat of arms of Hungarian Lonay family - nine pearls in the crown = Graff or Count.
(Count Menyhért Lónyay de Nagylónya et Vásárosnamény was the Prime minister of Hungary from 1871 to 1872.
For Diana`s head mark see here:
https://www.925-1000.com/Faustria_02.html
Try to identify the letter (assay office).
Regards

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Very much appreciated, thank you. Looking at the head marks it looks like the markings from 1872-1922 but head from the earlier period. Although this could just be where it’s so small and tarnished making it difficult to see properly. Many thanks once again

Re: European Hallmark?

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 9:18 am
by AG2012
Definitely 1872-1922, number 3 on the left for .800 fineness and there should be a letter in front of the head to determine assay office.
Regards

Re: European Hallmark?

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 9:27 am
by Jamenzo
AG2012 wrote:Definitely 1872-1922, number 3 on the left for .800 fineness and there should be a letter in front of the head to determine assay office.
Regards
Thank you very much for this

Re: European Hallmark?

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 9:46 am
by dognose
Hi,

It's likely that it will be a 'P', for Pest.

Many years ago we had a question:

The two intermediate ladles with the deep monograms have the same marks. The Diana head shows the third standard and 'P' for the city of Pest. What does the wheat mark signify?

Unfortunately the images are no longer viewable, but it is likely perhaps to be the same mark as shown above.

Trev.

Re: European Hallmark?

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 11:29 am
by Jamenzo
dognose wrote:Hi,

It's likely that it will be a 'P', for Pest.

Many years ago we had a question:

The two intermediate ladles with the deep monograms have the same marks. The Diana head shows the third standard and 'P' for the city of Pest. What does the wheat mark signify?

Unfortunately the images are no longer viewable, but it is likely perhaps to be the same mark as shown above.

Trev.
Thank you Trev, very helpful once again. Very much appreciated!

Re: European Hallmark?

Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2020 3:21 am
by huszas76
The maker is Schmidt Gyula, Budapest, District VII. Nyár utca (street) 13.
Best regards!
Krisztián

Re: European Hallmark?

Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2020 8:45 am
by Jamenzo
huszas76 wrote:The maker is Schmidt Gyula, Budapest, District VII. Nyár utca (street) 13.
Best regards!
Krisztián
Very kind and helpful Krisztian, thank you so much!!
Very best wishes
James