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Supposedly this was a French silver spoon from 1783-1789. I have been told it should have belonged to the fam, de Faÿ la Tour Maubourg but I can find no evidence for this claim so I need the help of the experts

Hi,

Welcome to the Forum.

Can you post a sharper image of the marks?

Trev.

Hello
I’m not really sure what your question is. Do you want info about the maker of your spoon, or the owner?
If it is the maker, your images are too blurred to decipher.
If it is the owner, please see the wikipedia entry for de Faÿ de la Tour Maubourg, a French marquis and later baron, who had a distinguished military career under the Ancien Régime, the Empire, and the Restoration.
This is a marriage crest; on the left you have the armorial of de Faÿ.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victor_de ... r-Maubourg

Regards

P.S. In any case, the date of manufacture of your spoon is after 1798.

JayT wrote:Hello
I’m not really sure what your question is. Do you want info about the maker of your spoon, or the owner?
If it is the maker, your images are too blurred to decipher.
If it is the owner, please see the wikipedia entry for de Faÿ de la Tour Maubourg, a French marquis and later baron, who had a distinguished military career under the Ancien Régime, the Empire, and the Restoration.
This is a marriage crest; on the left you have the armorial of de Faÿ.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victor_de ... r-Maubourg

Regards

The thing is that I like to know, Who made the spoons and what year, but also who they belong. You said that the crest was a marriage crest. The one of the left I had some what encoded. But to the Right is very Hard. But I think if I got the year and makers mark it could help me in search og the historie behind the spoons.

dognose wrote:Hi,

Welcome to the Forum.

Can you post a sharper image of the marks?

Trev.

I have tried to clean them so this is as good as it gets, sorry

Mike133 wrote:

JayT wrote:Hello
I’m not really sure what your question is. Do you want info about the maker of your spoon, or the owner?
If it is the maker, your images are too blurred to decipher.
If it is the owner, please see the wikipedia entry for de Faÿ de la Tour Maubourg, a French marquis and later baron, who had a distinguished military career under the Ancien Régime, the Empire, and the Restoration.
This is a marriage crest; on the left you have the armorial of de Faÿ.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victor_de ... r-Maubourg

Regards

The thing is that I like to know, Who made the spoons and what year, but also who they belong. You said that the crest was a marriage crest. The one of the left I had some what encoded. But to the Right is very Hard. But I think if I got the year and makers mark it could help me in search og the historie behind the spoons.

Further more when I look at the years og married in the Faÿ familiy I think the numbers dosn't ad up. Therefore the date and make is quit important

Hello
I regret the image of the maker’s is mark is too unfocused for me to decipher. It needs to be as sharp as the photo of the crest.
I can tell you that the lozenge-shaped reserve indicates manufacture after 1798, and the silver standard and guarantee marks are for Paris 1819-1838. Without a better photo, this is the most that can be done.
Good luck in your ongoing research on this item.
See:
https://www.925-1000.com/Ffrench_marks.html

JayT wrote:Hello
I regret the image of the maker’s is mark is too unfocused for me to decipher. It needs to be as sharp as the photo of the crest.
I can tell you that the lozenge-shaped reserve indicates manufacture after 1798, and the silver standard and guarantee marks are for Paris 1819-1838. Without a better photo, this is the most that can be done.
Good luck in your ongoing research on this item.
See:
https://www.925-1000.com/Ffrench_marks.html

I have now found out who had the spoons.
It's from Victor de Fay la tour Maubourg and Petronille van Rijssel. They married in Utrecht in the year 1804.
There is No doubt, there is proof from the churchbook and the crest of Van Rijssel.

Thanks for the update on the owner of your spoons.
As there seem to be more than 1 spoon, perhaps you could get an image from one of them that would allow identification of the maker?