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Oman or Cyrillic?
Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2022 11:04 am
by Juan gambina
Hi,
Can anyone help with some info regarding the hallmarks on this coffee pot please?
Thanks
Re: Oman or Cyrillic?
Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2022 11:08 am
by oel
Hi, welcome to the forum. To me your images are not showing. For information how to attach and imbedded images see:
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Peter.
Re: Oman or Cyrillic?
Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2022 11:21 am
by oel
And please use the Preview button to check quality of your images before you summit. If they are not showing to you, they will not show to us.
Peter.
Re: Oman or Cyrillic?
Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2022 11:59 am
by Juan gambina
Re: Oman or Cyrillic?
Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2022 12:00 pm
by Juan gambina
Re: Oman or Cyrillic?
Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2022 12:31 pm
by dognose
Hi,
Welcome to the Forum.
Neither, it's Italian.
Member blakstone wrote:
The head is that of Parthenope, the Greek siren who was the namesake of the ancient Greek colony today known as Naples, Italy. The mark, in this form, was used in Naples from 1824 until 1878 (when Naples joined the unified Kingdom of Italy). The "N" stood not for "Napoli" (as is often assumed) but "nostrali" ["ours"], indicating local production (as opposed to imported items marked with an "E" for "estero" ["foreign"], or liturgical items marked with a cross). The number indicated the both the metal and its purity: "8" indicated .833 silver.
The other mark will be that of the maker.
Trev.
Re: Oman or Cyrillic?
Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2022 12:45 pm
by oel
Also see:
1832-1872
With Decree No 723, January 26, 1832, to further differentiate the domestic from foreign production, the marks were modified adding to the profile of Parthenope the letter "N" for domestic ("Nostrale") or the letter "E" for foreign silver ("Estero").
https://www.silvercollection.it/NAPLESHALLMARKS.html
Peter.
Re: Oman or Cyrillic?
Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2022 12:50 pm
by Juan gambina
Great job Trev and Peter ;)
Much appreciated
I'm trying to find out who the silversmith is but still haven't managed...
Re: Oman or Cyrillic?
Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2022 12:54 pm
by oel
Just wait for our other (Italian) contributors to chime in.
Cheers,
Peter.
Re: Oman or Cyrillic?
Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2022 1:26 pm
by amena
Best
Amena
Re: Oman or Cyrillic?
Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2022 1:57 am
by amena
I was in a hurry yesterday
Here is the translation (google)
Romanelli Gennaro. Master of whom we have news for the year 1831. He was indicated by Tuccio as one of the best silversmiths in the city. His mark was found on many objects.
Some works by this master are: a parade of candlesticks in the Cathedral of Nusco, a desk service from the Santa Casa dell' Annunziata, a reliquary dated 1844, at the Denza college, a communion plate in the Abbey of the Trinita in Cava dei Tirreni, bearing the date of 1833, a gravy boat, a coffee pot and other objects of profane use in private collections in Naples and Bari.
Taken from
Neapolitan Argenti from the sixteenth to the nineteenth century
Elio and Corrado Catello
