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Re: Unknown European Hallmark - Antique Box
Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2022 8:08 pm
by FAUXHAMMER117
I need some assistance identifying this mark. I've narrowed it down to what I think is 185 on the attached hallmark guide (locked behind a paywall), but I've been unable to identify the source of that mark beyond being European and fairly old judging by the style of the box. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
https://postimg.cc/gallery/TXFBgqv
Re: Unknown European Hallmark - Antique Box
Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2022 8:11 pm
by FAUXHAMMER117
Re: Unknown European Hallmark - Antique Box
Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2022 8:31 pm
by FAUXHAMMER117
Re: Unknown European Hallmark - Antique Box
Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2022 8:42 pm
by Aguest
:::: Is this the dolphin hallmark seen on Dutch silver (second half of the 19th century)? ::::
Re: Unknown European Hallmark - Antique Box
Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2022 8:52 pm
by FAUXHAMMER117
I think it is! I believe that I see it on this page:
https://www.925-1000.com/Fnetherlands_Date_Code.html
Re: Unknown European Hallmark - Antique Box
Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2022 3:42 am
by oel
Hi, welcome to the forum. For more information about this Dolphin mark see:
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=32028
Peter.
Re: Unknown European Hallmark - Antique Box
Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2022 8:21 am
by oel
The marks on your 18th century snuff box;
![Image](https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/800x600q90/923/Y0Ar8h.jpg)
Far right;
town mark for The Hague, the storck with eel in beak in uncrowned shield.
If turned around we see far right; a vague year letter script
N for The Hague
1784 used for silver 2nd standard fineness 833/000
![Image](https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/800x600q90/922/fn6Ah1.jpg)
The maker's mark
IAB in oval attributed to:
Jacob
A.
Barbe, registered silversmith in The Hague during 1765-1795. Known maker of snuff/tobacco boxes with nice engraving work.
https://www.kunstmuseum.nl/nl/collectie/tabaksdoos-1
Another tobacco box made by Jacob Barbe;
![Image](https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/922/m39AdN.jpg)
Lid beautifully decorated with sea ships surrounded by decorations. The bottom is engraved with a woman sitting on the quay, probably waiting for the return of her captain.
Peter
Source; Merken van Haagsche goud-en zilversmeden door Elias Voet jr.# 160 and dutch goldsmiths 'and silversmiths' marks and names prior to 1812 Citroen.
Re: Unknown European Hallmark - Antique Box
Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2022 8:00 pm
by FAUXHAMMER117
Thank you so much for the detailed identification! It's absolutely incredible, and I'm so glad I saved this piece from being scrapped.
It will be displayed proudly in my collection now that I have the wonderful provenance!