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Help with Spanish Mark that you know for sure

Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2023 5:35 am
by Silverquick
Hello, someone has to know for sure, because it's in the guide Image https://www.925-1000.com/foreign_marks6.html
the mark i wish to know more about is the M and G, inside the hexagon. They are in a little cup, or bowl with handle with coin in the bottom Image

Thank you very much for your attention and the great work done here.
Best regards
S

Re: Help with Spanish Mark that you know for sure

Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2023 6:25 am
by dognose
Hi,

Welcome to the Forum.

Please post an image of your mark.

Trev.

Re: Help with Spanish Mark that you know for sure

Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2023 4:17 am
by Silverquick
Hello, my mark it's exactly the same that i posted but i have no way to post it properly, if you are okay with a blurry picture i'll try to do my best.
Meanwhile, if there is any info about the mark, it would be appreciated
Thanks

Re: Help with Spanish Mark that you know for sure

Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2023 4:32 am
by Silverquick

Re: Help with Spanish Mark that you know for sure

Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2023 5:13 am
by Silverquick
better pic i hope,
Image

Re: Help with Spanish Mark that you know for sure

Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2023 5:17 am
by dognose
That's great, thank you.

Trev.

Re: Help with Spanish Mark that you know for sure

Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2023 11:30 am
by Silverquick
Image

Here the MG and the star

Re: Help with Spanish Mark that you know for sure

Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2023 11:31 am
by Silverquick
If there is no info about the MG, could someone direct me to some online resource for Spanish Hallmarks? I'll search there. Thank you

Re: Help with Spanish Mark that you know for sure

Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2023 8:07 am
by Silverquick
Hello, new data. The object it's a "tastevin"
"A sommelier wears a tastevin around his or her neck. This small, shallow silver cup is used to taste wine to ensure it is not spoiled."

So it's a wine cup.

I think i still can not edit my own posts to change title, maybe if someone thinks it's appropiate, it should be done.

Re: Help with Spanish Mark that you know for sure

Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2023 11:25 am
by Traintime
No image left, but perhaps the source(?): https://www.925-1000.com/forum/viewtopi ... +mg#p84883

Re: Help with Spanish Mark that you know for sure

Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2023 11:33 am
by Traintime
And herein a mention of Garrido Hermanos (“GH”) Madrid which may or not be related family: https://www.925-1000.com/forum/viewtopi ... ido#p89752

Re: Help with Spanish Mark that you know for sure

Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2023 11:52 am
by Traintime
British Antique Dealers Association (BADA) has sample mark and placing Manuel Garrido executing work for retailer Lopez in the mid-1930’s era. (Due to commercial nature, no linking allowed. Images did not download, but mark is clear.)

Re: Help with Spanish Mark that you know for sure

Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2023 5:21 am
by Silverquick
Thank you very much Traintime, you are totally right. Same mark, i found other examples, i don't post if the sale items can't be post, only one that is sold, maybe if i am allowed? Image
you can see Manuel Garrido mark (right) star (center) and the hallmark from Silverware LÓPEZ, it seems that Manuel Garrido used to work for "Plateria Lopez" in Madrid.

Image

Silverware LÓPEZ mark has letters LO over a fish. It's curios because the name Lopez comes from latin for "Wolf (lupus)" but "Pez" means fish, so"LO-PEZ"

Re: Help with Spanish Mark that you know for sure

Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2023 1:28 pm
by Funkel
Hello, good afternoon.
Let's see if I can clarify it a little, The brand with the initials MG is from a Spanish manufacturer from the mid-20th century, (you already know that) but unfortunately it is unknown, we do not know its name.
The other LO/PEZ brand is from a merchant Pedro López Palomar (not a silversmith). LOPEZ dedicated himself, among other things, to selling silver objects made by other silversmiths. He also dedicated part of his business to reproducing objects and marking them with LO / PEZ but he didn't do it, he ordered them. As a curious fact, at the beginning of the 20th century, more or less around the 40s, LOPEZ and my grandfather (a silversmith by trade) were known since they had their workshops very close to each other and, more coincidentally, LOPEZ had his workshop on PEZ Street. from Madrid. Maybe that's why he's marked with a fish. :-). LOPEZ moved to 3 Prado Street and although he closed his business recently, you can still see the photo of his store on Google. It was run by a relative named Pedro López.
Greetings to all and if you need anything else.... delighted

Hola buenas tardes.
A ver si os lo puedo aclarar un poco, La marca con las siglas MG es de un fabricante español de mediados del XX, (eso ya lo sabéis) pero desgraciadamente es desconocido no sabemos su nombre.
La otra marca de LO/PEZ es de un comerciante Pedro López Palomar (no platero). LOPEZ se dedico entre otras cosas a vender objetos de plata fabricador por otros plateros. También dedico parte de su negocio a reproducir objetos y marcarlos con LO/PEZ pero no lo hacia él, los encargaba. Como dato curioso a principios del XX, mas o menos sobre los años 40, LOPEZ y mi abuelo (platero de oficio) fueron conocidos ya que tenían sus obradores muy cerca uno del otro y para mas coincidencia LOPEZ tenia su obrador en la calle del PEZ de Madrid. Quizás por eso su marca con un pez. :-). LOPEZ se traslado a la calle del Prado nº 3 y aunque cerro su actividad hace poco, aun podéis ver en Google la foto de su tienda. Lo regentaba un pariente de nombre Pedro López.
Saludos a todos y si necesitáis algo mas.... encantado

Re: Help with Spanish Mark that you know for sure

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2023 4:01 am
by Silverquick
Hola Funkel, muchisimas gracias, it's very interesting and curious information, thank you very much.
But i don't understand, why you say it's not Manuel Garrido? they sell this items, different sites, BADA, zsierra, Etsy, 1stdibs, all say it's Manuel Garrido, and offer detailed information so I guess there is some catalogue or book that classifies this mark as Manuel Garrido, right?

Re: Help with Spanish Mark that you know for sure

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2023 5:04 am
by Funkel
Good morning Silverquick, I have seen many times that they relate this contrast to Manuel Garrido, but I have no proof that this is the case and that is why I am suspicious. If you have any proof, would you mind sharing it. Thank you so much.

Buenos días Silverquick, he visto muchas veces que relacionan ese contraste con Manuel Garrido, pero yo no tengo ninguna prueba de que sea así y por eso desconfio. Si tú tienes alguna prueba te importaría campartirla. Muchas gracias

Re: Help with Spanish Mark that you know for sure

Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2023 2:01 pm
by Silverquick
Hello Funkel, i don't have yet i'm looking, please tell me what books or catalogs did you look so i can avoid them. Thank you

Re: Help with Spanish Mark that you know for sure

Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2023 11:38 am
by Funkel
No one has cared about Spanish silverware of the 20th century and nothing has been written. Don't worry, something will work out and thank you very much.