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attribution
Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2023 2:14 pm
by ALEKS
Re: attribution
Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2023 3:45 pm
by oel
Hi Aleks,
In my opinion silver-plated, Hans Jensen mark, the Dolphin. What appears to be a hare within a barrel frame-shape perhaps not a Belgian responsibility mark. As of 1942, a Belgian responsibility mark for precious metal must be accompanied by an appropriate fineness mark.
See;
https://www.925-1000.com/foreign_marks.html
https://www.silvercollection.it/DICTION ... LGIUM.HTML
Peter.
Re: attribution
Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2023 11:17 pm
by ALEKS
Re: attribution
Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2023 3:02 am
by oel
Your brush, then the third mark, far right shoud be the number 1,2 or 3, indicating the standard of fineness. If it one of these numbers it is indeed silver.
https://www.925-1000.com/forum/viewtopi ... an#p196357
Peter.
Re: attribution
Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2023 4:59 am
by ALEKS
oel-Thank you so much for your attention to the topic, but the fact is that the owner of the brush handed over the samples to the jeweler for verification and the jeweler said-SILVERPLATE.
Re: attribution
Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2023 6:26 am
by oel
At your brush,to be frank I do not recognize a standard number 1,2 or 3. I do not know if the jeweler draw his conclusion silver-plated, by looking at the marks only, or draw his conclusion after performing a proper (acid) silver test? The owner always can go for a second opinion.
As you already know, the Belgian barrel responsibility mark for precious metal, must be accompanied by a proper fineness mark or standard mark either with a number 1,2 or 3. The marks are self applied by silversmith/importer or retailer.
Peter.
Re: attribution
Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2023 7:26 am
by oel
Hi Aleks,
Meet Mr. Rabit
![Image](https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q70/922/KoaDW8.jpg)
Establishments Konijn (Rabit) Brussels, started 25-6-1949
Source;
Algemeen repertorium van de edelsmeden en van de merken van edelsmeedwerk in België. Vol. III: 1942-1997. / Repertoire general des orfevres et des marques d'orfevrie en Belgique. Gratitude Ludo Heymans
Peter.
Re: attribution
Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2023 10:32 am
by ALEKS
oel-Thanks for the addition.
Re: attribution
Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2023 10:10 pm
by ALEKS
oel-They gave the product to another jeweler and the answer was silver plated.Thank you again for your help.
Re: attribution
Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2023 9:58 am
by oel
Aleks, perhaps this proves the barrel shaped Belgian responsibility mark, registered by the Royal Mint of Belgium, was also used on silver plated items but without a self applied unofficial standard mark.
Peter.
Re: attribution
Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2023 12:53 am
by ALEKS
Peter- Clearly, thank you, and here I came across another brand, but with a brand -made Holland. Is it also unclear silver or not?
![Image](https://i.postimg.cc/G2BFQw3n/5.png)
Re: attribution
Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2023 3:31 am
by oel
Aleks, the number 2 on the ashtray should stand for 2nd standard silver (835/000). It is a self applied unofficial silver standard.
The M.V. Leopoldville was a Belgian passenger vessel.
https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/Ca ... hip,_1948)
Peter.
Re: attribution
Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2023 8:16 am
by ALEKS
Peter-Thanks a lot for the attribution. Sincerely, Alexander.