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DUblin mark 1806 ?

Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2023 3:50 pm
by fripou
Hello,

I saw this barrel-shaped tumbler / mug at an antique shop in Toulon, South of France

It is quite attractive and I love the shape.

I believe it is George III, 1806, Dublin.
Can you please confirm?

I cannot make out the maker. Do you have an idea?

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Thank you for your help.

Kindest regards

François

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Re: DUblin mark 1806 ?

Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2023 3:53 pm
by fripou
Sorry for the type : i meant 1808 !! letter M

Re: DUblin mark 1806 ?

Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2023 4:05 pm
by fripou
Might it be Jeremiah d'Olier ?

Re: DUblin mark 1806 ?

Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2023 9:23 pm
by scorpio
Interesting. GIven the date, 1808, one would assume it was Jeremiah D'OLier but seems to be the mark used by Isaac D'Olier (2) & (3) if you refer to Trev's detailed explanation of the D'OLier family here:

https://www.925-1000.com/forum/viewtopi ... ier#p38800

Refer also to the marks: https://www.925-1000.com/dlDublin2.html

Jeremiah D'Olier's mark was a rectangular I D with no pellet but the mark on your silver has one. So, was Isaac D'Olier (3) still working in 1808? If alive then, he must have been in his early to mid 70s as he was apprenticed in 1747.

Trev can likely shed more light on this.

Re: DUblin mark 1806 ?

Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2023 11:53 am
by fripou
Thank you very much scorpio

I wrote to Trev in PM and expect a reply soon - at least I hope he shall reply, as I am quite in the dark !!!

Re: DUblin mark 1806 ?

Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2023 1:38 pm
by dognose
I'm sorry, but I feel I cannot add anything of note. The maker's mark is so mutilated, I would not even be surprised if it was an overstrike.

Trev.

Re: DUblin mark 1806 ?

Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2023 2:42 pm
by fripou
Thank you for taking the time to reply.

It will remain a mystery

Re: DUblin mark 1806 ?

Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2023 4:20 pm
by scorpio
My error. Isaac would have been about 90 in 1808 if apprenticed at 14. So maybe Jeremiah used same mark or is as Trev said.

Re: DUblin mark 1808

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2023 4:10 am
by fripou
Thank you for your answer.