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1500-1700 Hamburg or pseudo mark?
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2024 11:42 am
by Yossarian
Re: 1500-1700 Hamburg or pseudo mark?
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2024 11:51 am
by oel
Hi, as requested before please have your images imbedded, including an image of the object
For information on how to attach and embedded see;
https://www.925-1000.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=42199
Peter.
Re: 1500-1700 Hamburg or pseudo mark?
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2024 12:23 pm
by Yossarian
Re: 1500-1700 Hamburg or pseudo mark?
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2024 12:25 pm
by Yossarian
Re: 1500-1700 Hamburg or pseudo mark?
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2024 12:27 pm
by Yossarian
The color looks a bit pewter to me, but it definitely resembles the 17th century Hamburg marks. I appreciate any help.
Re: 1500-1700 Hamburg or pseudo mark?
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2024 12:31 pm
by Yossarian
Also, why move it out of the german section? Is there some doubt about which country it came from?
Re: 1500-1700 Hamburg or pseudo mark?
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2024 1:46 pm
by oel
You were moved to the German single image section. For silver (hall)marks Hamburg see;
https://www.925-1000.com/Fger_hamburg_01.html
Rosenberg, Marc: Der Goldschmiede Merkzeichen (Band 2) Hamburg page 131
https://digi.ub.uni-heidelberg.de/digli ... image,info
Indeed it could be a (Hamburg?) pewter mark.
Peter
Re: 1500-1700 Hamburg or pseudo mark?
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2024 2:58 pm
by Yossarian
Strange how none of these examples include the maker's or assayer's initials inside the shield like mine has.
I almost detect an ottoman sultan's signature below the castle.
I know other German cities also used castles for hallmarking, but I don't know which.
Thanks
I'll test it and let you know if it's silver or pewter.
Re: 1500-1700 Hamburg or pseudo mark?
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2024 3:08 pm
by Yossarian
A book by Markhams mentions the 17th Cent Hamburg smiths included 6-pointed stars on their work. This one is 5-pointed. So my best guess now is Hamburg pewter or Hanau pseudo marks.
Re: 1500-1700 Hamburg or pseudo mark?
Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2024 4:02 am
by amena
The color looks a bit pewter to me, but it definitely resembles the 17th century Hamburg marks. I appreciate any help.
It looks like pewter to me too, most likely.
There are many ways to distinguish silver from pewter.
Try one.
Best
Amena
Re: 1500-1700 Hamburg or pseudo mark?
Posted: Sat Nov 30, 2024 12:43 pm
by oldoillamp
I have an old oil lamp with the same marking. I reached out to The Pewter Society (pewtersociety.org) and got the following response:
"The touch mark is reminiscent of the Coat of Arms of Jönköping which is a city on Lake Vattern, Sweden. The maker TS is not listed for that location in my Swedish reference book for antique pewter or anywhere else in Sweden so it may be that it is too late to be classed as antique or just unrecorded."
This makes sense, as my father (who I inherited the lamp from) was born and raised in Jönköping.