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Italian Gold registration number
Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2024 2:44 am
by Mariagadadver
Hello. I bought this ring in Austria. (7.8 gram ca 7.9 gram ) I discovered some gold hallmarks. I would like to know its origin and who made it? Something about hallmarks? I couldn't find anything on the net .I have been struggling to find it for 3 months. I would be grateful for help.(With rectangle and star... (β 896 VI ) ? Vincenza Italy ???
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Re: Italian Gold registration number
Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2024 3:44 am
by dognose
Hi,
Welcome to the Forum.
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Re: Italian Gold registration number
Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2024 6:32 pm
by Mariagadadver
dognose wrote: βSun Mar 10, 2024 3:44 am
Hi,
Welcome to the Forum.
Please embed your images.
Trev.
I don't know for sure if it's Italian but I can't find anywhere the series with no β896 VI OR β696 VI I CAN'T SEE THE FIRST DIGIT WELL π. It has 3 hallmarks, the one with 585 has a kind of plate underneath if I see correctly? I would appreciate your help
Re: Italian Gold registration number
Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2024 6:34 pm
by Mariagadadver
dognose wrote: βSun Mar 10, 2024 3:44 am
Hi,
Welcome to the Forum.
Please embed your images.
Trev.
I don't know for sure if it's Italian but I can't find anywhere the series with no β896 VI OR β696 VI I CAN'T SEE THE FIRST DIGIT WELL π. It has 3 hallmarks, the one with 585 has a kind of plate underneath if I see correctly? I would appreciate your help
Re: Italian Gold registration number
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2024 3:35 am
by amena
The 585 marks within the truncated lozenge and star/number/city code are certainly Italian, but the third mark does not appear to be.
It is probable that an artefact coming from abroad was put on the market after having been marked with the (Italian) law hallmarks.
If the number is 896 VI, then it belongs to Cunico Vittorio S.n.c.
Via Marosticana 170/G Vicenza; since July 1977
If instead it is 696 VI, then it belongs to
D.E.N. of Flli Nicoletti S.n.c. Via Pascoli 4, Trissino: since December 1972
Best
Amena
P.S. both ceased before 12 31 1995
Re: Italian Gold registration number
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2024 4:23 pm
by Mariagadadver
amena wrote: βMon Mar 11, 2024 3:35 am
The 585 marks within the truncated lozenge and star/number/city code are certainly Italian, but the third mark does not appear to be.
It is probable that an artefact coming from abroad was put on the market after having been marked with the (Italian) law hallmarks.
If the number is 896 VI, then it belongs to Cunico Vittorio S.n.c.
Via Marosticana 170/G Vicenza; since July 1977
If instead it is 696 VI, then it belongs to
D.E.N. of Flli Nicoletti S.n.c. Via Pascoli 4, Trissino: since December 1972
Best
Amena
P.S. both ceased before 12 31 1995
I appreciate your effort thank you very much. where did you find the information? is it a website or can I buy a book?
Re: Italian Gold registration number
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2024 4:30 pm
by Mariagadadver
amena wrote: βMon Mar 11, 2024 3:35 am
The 585 marks within the truncated lozenge and star/number/city code are certainly Italian, but the third mark does not appear to be.
It is probable that an artefact coming from abroad was put on the market after having been marked with the (Italian) law hallmarks.
If the number is 896 VI, then it belongs to Cunico Vittorio S.n.c.
Via Marosticana 170/G Vicenza; since July 1977
If instead it is 696 VI, then it belongs to
D.E.N. of Flli Nicoletti S.n.c. Via Pascoli 4, Trissino: since December 1972
Best
Amena
P.S. both ceased before 12 31 1995
if you don't mind, you can also tell me about β895VI and β695 VI, if you know? thanks in advance
Re: Italian Gold registration number
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2024 5:06 pm
by Mariagadadver
amena wrote: βMon Mar 11, 2024 3:35 am
The 585 marks within the truncated lozenge and star/number/city code are certainly Italian, but the third mark does not appear to be.
It is probable that an artefact coming from abroad was put on the market after having been marked with the (Italian) law hallmarks.
If the number is 896 VI, then it belongs to Cunico Vittorio S.n.c.
Via Marosticana 170/G Vicenza; since July 1977
If instead it is 696 VI, then it belongs to
D.E.N. of Flli Nicoletti S.n.c. Via Pascoli 4, Trissino: since December 1972
Best
Amena
P.S. both ceased before 12 31 1995
I tried to reproduce the other punch. below 585 is some kind of scale with a sign or some letters stuck on it
Re: Italian Gold registration number
Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2024 4:18 am
by amena
I found the information in one of the 5 books that are part of the "punzoni dei preziosi italiani" series. These are very difficult books to find, and frankly I would not recommend purchasing them.
They were given to me by a dealer who participated in the editorial process.
Regarding the other question
895 VI is Oreficeria Bettinardi Gastone, via Mameli 162, Vicenza
695 VI Gecchelin Emilio, via Sarego 8, Schio
Best
Amena
Re: Italian Gold registration number
Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2024 6:22 am
by Mariagadadver
amena wrote: βTue Mar 12, 2024 4:18 am
I found the information in one of the 5 books that are part of the "punzoni dei preziosi italiani" series. These are very difficult books to find, and frankly I would not recommend purchasing them.
They were given to me by a dealer who participated in the editorial process.
Regarding the other question
895 VI is Oreficeria Bettinardi Gastone, via Mameli 162, Vicenza
695 VI Gecchelin Emilio, via Sarego 8, Schio
Best
Amena
thank you very much
Re: Italian Gold registration number
Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2024 10:03 pm
by vengy
Mariagadadver wrote: βWed Mar 13, 2024 6:22 am
amena wrote: βTue Mar 12, 2024 4:18 am
I found the information in one of the 5 books that are part of the "punzoni dei preziosi italiani" series. These are very difficult books to find, and frankly I would not recommend purchasing them.
They were given to me by a dealer who participated in the editorial process.
Regarding the other question
895 VI is Oreficeria Bettinardi Gastone, via Mameli 162, Vicenza
695 VI Gecchelin Emilio, via Sarego 8, Schio
Best
Amena
thank you very much
Hello ! Iβve made an account so I could ask this since youβre one of the only people who Iβve found recently who can help. Can you please let me know more about *860VI ? My nonna got me these earrings when I was born but Iβm curious to know more about them :) thank you !
Re: Italian Gold registration number
Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2024 10:55 pm
by silverly
It doesnβt begin to give you the information that amena has provided, but a starting place for both of the companies in this instance is the uspto.gov site.
Re: Italian Gold registration number
Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2024 2:38 am
by dognose
Hi vengy,
Welcome to the Forum.
Please start a new topic with images of your item and the marks.
Trev.