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French coffee pot

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2024 3:35 pm
by huszas76
Hello friends!
Can anyone identify the maker of this empire coffee pot?
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The number at the sides of the man's head is 12 or 72.
Thank you for your help!
Best regards!
Krisztián

Re: French coffee pot

Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2024 4:11 pm
by bijoux.expert
Hello,
I can't identify the maker, it's rare to have just initials with no identifying symbol.
The assay office mark is most likely 12 for the Bouches de Rhone region, as I've never seen any silverware hallmarked in Versailles for that period.
If there's no dot under the 12, it would be from Marseilles, one dot is for Aix-en-Provence and two dots for Arles.

Re: French coffee pot

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2024 8:50 am
by oel
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If assay office number is 72, it could be for (département de l'Ourthe) Liège in Belgium . Lozenge with just initials in Liège between 1798-1809 are not uncommon. Although I could not find a proper Belgian match for I.T or IT in lozenge.

Peter.

Source; Walter van Dievoet, Algemeen repertorium van de edelsmeden en van de merken van edelsmeedwerk in België II 1798-1942, Liège.

Re: French coffee pot

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2024 3:12 pm
by bijoux.expert
Yes, you're right, I was looking in the wrong column for the assay office marks. It could well be Liège, as the 7 is very clear in the better photo, but the second number is still unclear.
And being from Belgium could explain why I can't find any trace of marker's mark IT in my French references.