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Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2024 5:12 am
by huszas76
Hello, colleagues!
Does anyone have information about Paul Magnus Tenner in St. Petersburg?
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I found a knife with a hallmark from Arad, which has a Tenner maker mark very similar to the mark given in the Postnikova-Loseva book.
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I am assuming the identity of the maker, but I would be happy if someone could confirm that he really left St. Petersburg.
Thank you for your help!
Best regards!
Krisztián

Re: question

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2024 5:41 am
by Ubaranda
Hello Krisztián!
Paul Magnus Tenner did not leave St. Petersburg and died there in 1819.
This information from Бар. А. Е. Фелькерзам: Алфавитный указатель С. – Петербургских золотых и серебряных дел мастеров, ювелиров, граверов и проч. (1714-1814).
https://uvelir.info/books/alfavitnyi_uk ... 1714-1814/
Regards. Alex.

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Re: question

Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2024 3:44 am
by huszas76
Dear Alex!
First of all, thanks for the information!
It's interesting because what you show here maker mark is even more similar to what I showed than what is in the PL book.
Could it be that his widow or his son carried on the workshop, using the maker's mark, and they left Russia?
I feel this is more likely than a completely different silversmith with the same name and makers mark appearing out of nowhere in Arad.
Anyway, it is interesting.
Best regards!
Krisztián

Re: question

Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2024 7:25 am
by Silverstone
Hi huszas76,

in addition to P. M. Tenner - for your archiv.
This is not my ansver to your question!

This is the mark of Paul Magnus Tenner in combination with the city-mark of St. Petersburg.
The assay master is Alexandr Ilych Yaschinkov (1795-1826).

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Tenner (*1781 region Estland - †1819 St. Petersburg) worked for the tsar' s court.
After Tenner's death, his widow continued the work until 1924.

Regards
Silverstone

Source: photo: Vitber, Riga
925-1000.com - russian silver marks
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