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::::: HELLO AND WELCOME to the Japanese Letters Sake Cup Inscription & Jungin Mark :::::::




::::: I believe I can see the Jungin mark for [PURE SILVER] which was in use in Japan until approximately 1912-1914 but the inscription might be able to specify an exact year when the inscription was inscribed & there might be some historical significance to this sake cup (have seen military-related inscriptions on sake cups so if I had to guess my best guess would be some sort of military inscription but I truly do not know). ::::::::

(traditional style sake cup, perfectly circular disc-shape with a base in the center of the disc-shape, exactly 1 inch in height overall)

::::: THANK YOU for your help in translating the Japanese Inscription & Jungin Mark ::::::

::::: COMPLETELY FORGOT THE SECOND INSCRIPTION :::::::

::::: There seems to be a date of { 3 / 23 / 1964 } so is it possible that this cup is a 50th year anniversary of something? :::::

:::::: Since the Jungin Mark was not seen on silver very much after 1914, is it possible that the inscription is celebrating a 50th anniversary? ::::::

::::: THANK YOU AGAIN FOR ALL YOUR ASSISTANCE :::::::::

:::::::: THE FOUR CHARACTERS OF THE JUNGIN MARK are seen in my hallmark, but only the first row, however, the second row contains further information? Perhaps the SECOND ROW of Japanese Characters is a Maker's Mark which identifies the silversmith? :::::::::::::::::::

::: I might have identified the silversmith as YAMAZAKI SHOTEN of Ginza ::::: The characters seem similar to other hallmarks by Yamazaki Shoten of Ginza. :

Hello there,

It translates as:

Mainichi Shimbun (The Japan Daily News) retirement commemoration
Mr. Hotta Koji
23/03/1964
Company Farewell party


Pure Silver
Made in/by Ikoma (Ikoma is a maker but also could be the name of the city)

Hope that helps.

Connor

shikiamondo wrote: ↑Thu Aug 15, 2024 6:30 am Hello there,

It translates as:

Mainichi Shimbun (The Japan Daily News) retirement commemoration
Mr. Hotta Koji
23/03/1964
Company Farewell party


Pure Silver
Made in/by Ikoma (Ikoma is a maker but also could be the name of the city)

Hope that helps.

Connor

Would like to add to this reply:
Ikoma is a maker called Gonshichi Ikoma, G. Ikoma Shoten Ltd. has been established in 1923.

:::: Yes thank you! ::::::

::::::: I see it now, I understand, it seems as if there is an incorrect attribution from another set of sake cups, and GONSHICHI IKOMA is the maker ::::

:::: I have read that the JUNGIN MARK is not used very much after 1914, but in this case, do you think the cup was manufactured in the early 1960s (right before it was purchased to commemorate the retirement of a newspaper employee) or do you think the cup is actually older? When I read that the JUNGIN MARK is not used very much after 1914, I began to think that the cup was from the 1st quarter of the 20th century (maybe 1900-1925), and I have seen older pieces of silver monogrammed 50-100 years later and given as a retirement present (I saw this once on an English Military Charger Plate, it was an absolutely beautiful piece of antique English silver that had been scarred by a deeply-cut monogram for an executive retirement in the 1980s) but in this case I am not sure when the cup was manufactured, but if you could venture a guess as to when the cup was manufactured, that would be helpful in addition to all the help you have given for which I am grateful. ::::::

::::: Perhaps the JUNGIN MARK is simply infrequently used after 1914, but some firms still continued the practice of stamping with the JUNGIN MARK, that is one possibility which I am investigating. ::::::

Hi,

The Jungin mark on your cup is written from left to right, the Japanese adapted this writing style approx. after WWII.

Hope that helps.

Connor

:::: Yes I was wondering about the order of the characters as well. ::::: Thank you once again as it seems all mysteries are solved. ::::::