18th century French spoon with only two marks

PHOTOS REQUIRED - marks + item
Post Reply
oel
co-admin
Posts: 5042
Joined: Wed Mar 21, 2007 8:16 pm
Location: Rotterdam
Contact:

18th century French spoon with only two marks

Post by oel »

Image
Image

One of my acquaintances asks if I can tell him more about this probably French serving spoon. The length is 25.5 cm and the weight is 104 grams. The spoon was advertised as 18th century French from Arras. Only two hallmarks have been stamped. I suspect a master's mark and a city hallmark. Who can help us further, thank you in advance

The two marks
Image

To me the mark below looks like pair of wick trimmers with a hinged scissor action, above two lit candles.
Image

Image

Peter
Bru5no
Posts: 8
Joined: Sat Sep 14, 2024 4:43 am
Location: Paris

Re: 18th century French spoon with only two marks

Post by Bru5no »

Hi,

The city hallmark should be for St Martin en Ré, juridiction of La Rochelle. The year is 1790.
oel
co-admin
Posts: 5042
Joined: Wed Mar 21, 2007 8:16 pm
Location: Rotterdam
Contact:

Re: 18th century French spoon with only two marks

Post by oel »

Hi Bru5no,

Welcome to the forum. Thank you very much for your precious contribution, much appreciated.
For crying out loud, I didn't search the forum properly, the wick trimmer is shown on the forum for Saint Martin and Ré. Again thanks for pointing me in the right direction!
https://www.925-1000.com/Ffrench_townmarks_06.html


Regards,

Peter.
Bru5no
Posts: 8
Joined: Sat Sep 14, 2024 4:43 am
Location: Paris

Re: 18th century French spoon with only two marks

Post by Bru5no »

If you like sources of the time, the Almanach des Monnoies for 1788 shows the new (since 1784) townmarks :
https://books.google.fr/books?id=1ZtMAA ... &q&f=false

Twonmarks are shown at the very end of the book.
Page 180, St Martin en Ré is #150.

I'm not home now, I'll look for the silversmith next week. Christophe Ginter has published a very detailed book about marks of Louis XVI reign (1775-1790) : Les 6000 poinçons de l'orfèvrerie française sous Louis XVI (1774-1791).

Regards,

Bruno
Bru5no
Posts: 8
Joined: Sat Sep 14, 2024 4:43 am
Location: Paris

Re: 18th century French spoon with only two marks

Post by Bru5no »

Hi,

I've checked Ginter's book : IIL mark is recorded but the silversmith has not been identified. The city is St Omer. This is coherent with the big closed crown of the silversmith's mark. This crown is common in the north of France.
The almanach des Monnoies 1788 must have forgotten to update the numbers, #150 is St Omer in the 1785 edition page 167 https://books.google.fr/books?id=59E2pC ... &q&f=false

Regards,

Bruno
oel
co-admin
Posts: 5042
Joined: Wed Mar 21, 2007 8:16 pm
Location: Rotterdam
Contact:

Re: 18th century French spoon with only two marks

Post by oel »

Hi Bruno,
Thank you very much.

Regards,

Peter.
Post Reply

Return to “French Silver”