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Unknown Crest, Assistance Sought.

Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2024 5:55 am
by dartsil
Hi all,

I wonder if anyone can assist with the crest on these pieces of cutlery.

Regards,
Colin

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Re: Unknown Crest, Assistance Sought.

Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2024 5:58 am
by dartsil
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Re: Unknown Crest, Assistance Sought.

Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2024 6:59 am
by Sasropakis
Looks like Monteath Douglas. See:

https://archive.org/details/fairbairnsb ... ew=theater
https://archive.org/details/fairbairnsb ... ew=theater

"Out of an Eastern crown or, the rim charged with three bombs fired, an oak-tree, the stem transfixed by a sword fesseways, pommel and hilt to the dexter, all ppr. (for Monteath)."

The motto is Viresco = I become green / to flourish. I started to search Fairbairn's book for the motto (used by several families) and found Monteath Douglas.

Could even be General Sir Thomas Monteath Douglas KCB ADC whose orders and medals could match the ones featured below the crest. You can use Google search to see his mausoleum where his coat of arms are shown with similar set of medals.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Monteath_Douglas

Re: Unknown Crest, Assistance Sought.

Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2024 7:29 am
by dartsil
Thanks a lot for all this information.

It looks like you have nailed it, most appreciated.

Colin

Re: Unknown Crest, Assistance Sought.

Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2024 10:36 am
by Traintime
Just for the search records, sample of Prince Albert pattern.

Re: Unknown Crest, Assistance Sought.

Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2024 2:22 pm
by Traintime
And, Catchpole & Williams advertisement: viewtopic.php?p=202150&hilit=catchpole#p202150

Re: Unknown Crest, Assistance Sought.

Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2024 3:14 pm
by Traintime
One source indicating original Catchpole & Williams partnership (Regent Street) dissolved 04 June 1846. Separate businesses followed with “late Catchpole & Williams” used for one, and Catchpole & Williams name revived later on (see Trev’s posting link in last entry for advert.).