Help please with maker.

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oldbiscuit
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Help please with maker.

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I have recently aquired this marrow scoop, and am having difficulty in tracing the maker.
I know that it is London 1757, but the makers mark is almost rubbed. I have tried to post a picture but have not yet mastered photography. It seems to have a faint GS in a 'cloud like' surround. The nearest i can come up with is George Smith 1V.
All help appreciated, and any information on George Smith 1V please.
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Post by 2209patrick »

George Smith IV entered his mark in 1799. George Smith III entered his mark in 1774.

Not sure, but your mark might be that of Gabriel Sleath.

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Post by oldbiscuit »

Many thanks Patrick, that is quite interesting.
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Post by nigel le sueur »

Although Patricks knowledge of silver is far better than mine, can l just make a couple of points

Besides Sleath having a very intresting bio, his first mark was as a largeworker entered 17/6/1720 which maybe the one "in a cloud" in 1739 a third mark also a largeworker in 1753 he was in partnership with Francis Crump

Also he was dead and buried by 21st March 1756

He was known to have an extensive range of Hollow-ware, coffee-pots tankards cups and covers, his major works are the wine-cisterns in the Hermatige.

Would he of been a maker of flatware? l know that items do turn up after a silversmiths death but is this the case ?

My choice would be George Smith ll, he entered his mark as a smallworker (undated) before 7th August 1758.

He was also a maker of flatware such as sugartongs etc, for an example of his mark see
http://castsugartongs.co.uk/castsugarto ... ithll.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Post by 2209patrick »

Hello Nigel.
Not sure if Gabriel Sleath produced flatware. Just offered his name as a possibility.
The cloud catouche description seemed similar to one of his marks.
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I have seen spoons attributed to Gabriel Sleath that dated after 1756. I just searched the internet for examples.
However, every piece I saw, dated after 1756, had marks that looked like George Smith III's mark to me.
Maybe they are identified incorrectly.

Don't know if it's George Smith II's mark. He used a standard cartouche.
A picture would really help about now.

Pat.
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