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Strange flatware markings, please help identify

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 12:41 am
by Farm Wife
I have a very simple service for six in what appears to be German 800 silver. However, I have not been able to identify any of the marks. They also are not where a novice like me would expect them to be either. Have tryed to photograph, but my camera is not so hot. I will attempt to discribe them instead.

They have a smooth flat handle with beveled edge, flare at the end and the forks have long very pointed tines. The marks are all seperate with three on each piece.

On Left:
- A round flower w/ six round petals and round center (Sandrik?)
or
- KS in rectangle
or
- DM in rectangle

In Center:
-A triangle w/ a 2 bar cross at the top, an "S" in the left corner, nothing in the right. (on all)

On Right:
- 800 in rectangle
or
-800 no rectangle
or
-865 no rectangle

Dinner Forks - Flower/Triangle/800 in box, on back above handle
Lunch Forks - KS/Triangle/865, on front above handle
Desert/Fruit Fork - Flower/Triangle/800 in box, on back above handle

Soup Spoon - KS/Triangle/800 no rectangle, in bowl above handle
Tea/Coffee Spoon - Flower/Triangle/800 in box, on back above handle
Desert/Fruit Spoon - DM/Triangle/800 no box, in bowl above handle
(has tine and gold wash in bowl)

Dinner Knife - Flower/800 in box one side w/ Triangle on other, on handle near blade. Blade marked w/ Flower next to SANDRIK INOXYDABLE
Lunch Knife - KS/865 one side w/ Triangle on other, on handle near blade. Blade marked BUBELA RUSTFREE
Desert/Fruit Knife - Flower/800 in box one side w/ Triangle on other, on handle near blade. Blade marked INOXYDABLE SOLINGEN

There! My uneducated guess is they are all one manufacturer (Sandirk?), but produced at different times. If anyone can enlighten me about these I would be delighted.

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 8:56 am
by 2209patrick
The triangle mark with a double cross at the top sounds similar to a Czechoslovakian mark.
Could the "S' possibly be a "5"?
Check out this thread:

http://www.925-1000.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7139" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Regards,
Pat.

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 9:44 am
by 2209patrick
I moved your last post back here on your original thread. Less confusing for others.

Post from FARM WIFE:
"Yes, YES!! Boy, you guys are good! The "S" in the corner could very well be a 5. The handle is very similar to your photo, but is smooth all the way with no break. I used the set for several years as my every-day flatware. Is there anything "special" about it? Do I need to have it insured?"

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 9:52 am
by 2209patrick
We don't discuss values on this forum.
Posting Requirements



Pat.

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 9:48 pm
by Farm Wife
Sorry Pat and all Forum. My bad for skimming over the posting requirements. Just excited to finally know something about it. Please don't boot me off. The site in general and the forum members gave me more information in one evening than my years of picking through books. I'll not make the same error again.

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 10:03 pm
by 2209patrick
Glad we could help.
You're wecome back anytime.

Regards,
Pat.

Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 2:03 am
by Bahner
Hello, Sandrik was founded in 1895 in the city of Dolne Hamre in the Slowakia region of what was then the Austro-Hungarian empire. It rapidly grew and employed several hundred workers. It closely collaborated with another company, Krupp-Berndorf in Austria (actually Krupp owned a lot of the Sandrik shares until the early 1920ies). One can find the same cutlery pattern with either a Sandrik or a Krupp mark. Krupp made no silver cutlery though, so Your pattern is probably really Sandrik. Sandrik cooperated in the 1930ies with well-known designers like Ladislav Sutnar and Bohumil Juznic. The other marks You describe are probably not maker’s marks, but the marks of the retailers who sold these pieces. Hard to tell without a pic, though … Best wishes, Bahner