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German mark?

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 4:02 pm
by DeanC
Hi,
This is the inside back of a watch. The half moon and crown seem to indicate that it's German, but can't make out the two animal marks (seem to be lions..?) so as to get a more precise idea of date. It's an art deco watch, so 1910's or 1920's ? Checked out the German marks page, but didn't find a match.

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Any help appreciated.
Thanks

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 6:15 pm
by 2209patrick
Hello. The bear mark looks like a Swiss mark used between 1882 and 1934.
Indicates a fineness of .875 or above.
http://www.925-1000.com/foreign_marks.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Not sure what the crown/moon mark means.

Pat.

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 9:56 pm
by byron mac donald
Hi Pat-
Okay, now I'm confused (easily done) I see what you are saying about the bear mark being Swiss. But dosen't the moon/crown mean German?

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 10:23 pm
by 2209patrick
Hello Byran.
You're correct in saying the crescent moon/crown mark usually indicates Germany.
Not sure what it means here. Maybe a company trademark?

In my first post I just wanted to let DeanC know about the swiss marks.


Pat.

german and swiss marks combined

Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 7:18 pm
by wolfgang
Hi, its typical to have both german and swiss hallmarks on watches of this time, early twentieth century, watches being built in switzerland and exported to germany.
regards wolfgang

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 3:20 am
by Bahner
Hello, my experience, too. As Germany never used import marks, a German seller simply stamped halfmoon and crown beside the fineness. Strictly, the "0,835" wasn't legal, but nobody cared. Best wishes, Bahner

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 3:47 am
by byron mac donald
Thank you Wolfgang and Bahner, this is great to know.

Byron

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 7:39 pm
by DeanC
Hi everyone,
Thanks so much for your information.
Cheers!