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Please help identify Vienna Maker ES

Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2021 10:43 am
by mach1948
Hi friends.
Can anyone help identify the master "ES" Vienna 1861
regards
Mariusz

Re: Please help identify Vienna Maker ES

Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2021 11:24 am
by dognose
Your question cannot be answered without the required images.

Trev.

Re: Please help identify Vienna Maker ES

Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2021 12:40 pm
by mach1948

Re: Please help identify Vienna Maker ES

Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2021 12:48 pm
by dognose
Please embed your images.

https://postimages.org (choose 'Share', then copy the 'Hotlink for forums' code) is recommended.

Trev.

Re: Please help identify Vienna Maker ES

Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2021 1:13 pm
by mach1948

Re: Please help identify Vienna Maker ES

Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2021 1:35 pm
by dognose
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Re: Please help identify Vienna Maker ES

Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2021 1:53 pm
by huszas76
Hello!
Maybe some better photos could help but in first sight seems fake marks to me.
Best regards!
Krisztián

Re: Please help identify Vienna Maker ES

Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2021 2:28 pm
by AG2012
Hi,
I agree with Krisztián; Radpunze looks suspicious (arrow). There is another mark (circle).
Besides, the engraved decor of this kind is almost never seen in 1861 Vienna late Biedermeier (neo baroque or Wiener Rosensilber decor).
That`s the reason we ask for the image of the item, not only marks.
Regards


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Re: Please help identify Vienna Maker ES

Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2021 3:52 pm
by mach1948

Re: Please help identify Vienna Maker ES

Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2021 4:00 pm
by mach1948

Re: Please help identify Vienna Maker ES

Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2021 4:13 pm
by huszas76
Here are the original hallmarks from 1851 and 1861.
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The differences are obvious.
And I don't want to guess when and how become a fake one.
Best regards!
Krisztián

Re: Please help identify Vienna Maker ES

Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2021 8:36 am
by mach1948
Hello,
Kind regards to you both and thank you for all the research you have both done,
Hope you both have a fantastic Christmas and the best ever New Year,
Mariusz