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18th century Russian

Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2023 11:47 am
by amena
Hello everyone
Russian silver is always a difficult topic, but when it comes from the 18th century, the examples discussed in this forum are very few.
There is a box for sale that bears these marks.
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As far as I know, Russian regulations also required the silversmith's mark and the assayer's mark, which I don't see here.
Or perhaps this was not yet required in the 18th century?
Can anyone shed some light on this topic?
Thanks for attention
Amena
P.S. for the record I have no intention of buying it, whether it is genuine or not.

Re: 18th century Russian

Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2023 2:10 pm
by Dad
Hi!

These are fake punches. And, most likely, not very old. I hope I didn't upset you too much?

Re: 18th century Russian

Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2023 10:24 am
by amena
First of all, thanks Dad for the confirmation.
I have no reason to be upset: I posted this question precisely because the marks seemed suspicious to me, but I wasn't sure.
Thus we find ourselves faced with yet another fake proposed by a well-known antiques dealer on a well-known internet platform.
It has been said several times that this site does not deal with fakes.
Wouldn't it be appropriate to deal with it instead?
For my part, I see that a high percentage of Italian silver offered for sale on the Internet is actually fake, particularly the Venetian and Neapolitan ones.
Wouldn't it be appropriate to do something to stem this trend?
Best
Amena