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Théodore Tonnelier NECESSAIRE DE PIQUE-NIQUE

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 9:23 am
by avisrara
Hello!
I am a newbie here, you have an amazing forum.
We bought a wonderful set of marching. Master Théodore Tonnelier. We understand it is not complete. Lacks most of the kit. Sadly it (. But that's all we found. Maybe someone will add something else on the seals. Most of them we have not been able to identify.
Thanks in advance.

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Re: Théodore Tonnelier NECESSAIRE DE PIQUE-NIQUE

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 1:24 pm
by Zilver2
Hello,
The maker's mark belongs to the manufacturer silversmith Louis Alexandre Bruneau (1)&(2) and Louis Bruneau (3).
They were specialized in office supplies, stamps (1), trimming necessary, pencil holders (2) and plate (3).
Located at 8 rue de Vertbois, Paris (1), 1 rue de Montmorency, Paris (2), 38 rue de Montmorency, Paris (3).
Date stamps were entered : 9 June 1823 (1), 2 July 1834 (2) and 8 April 1843 (3).
N° de garantie : 2434; 3353; 4266
N° de préfecture : 2570; 3494; 4435
Symbol : a pellet over a nib (un bec de plume, un point au-dessous.
The second mark is the bigorne mark (reverse mark of the Minerva head)
Regards

Re: Théodore Tonnelier NECESSAIRE DE PIQUE-NIQUE

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 3:33 pm
by avisrara
Thanks for the fast reply!
Looked data about the stigma of "Minerva". I'm a little confused. The number 2 is preparing for a silver or that the product was exported?
Another thing I found on the internet other article of this author. And there was a monogram that MAYBE copyright of Prince Alexander

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I'm interested in my monogram. To be honest, I can not understand what kind of characters there? And whose crown. Just make out the "M".
thanks again for your reply!

Re: Théodore Tonnelier NECESSAIRE DE PIQUE-NIQUE

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 6:15 pm
by Zilver2
Good evening,
The Minerva head with the figure 2 is the guarantee mark for a silver fineness of at least .800
Regards.
zilver2

Re: Théodore Tonnelier NECESSAIRE DE PIQUE-NIQUE

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 7:08 pm
by avisrara
thank you very much! I am very grateful! It's a miracle!

Re: Théodore Tonnelier NECESSAIRE DE PIQUE-NIQUE

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 7:17 pm
by avisrara
avisrara wrote:Hello!
I am a newbie here, you have an amazing forum.
We bought a wonderful set of marching. Master Théodore Tonnelier. We understand it is not complete. Lacks most of the kit. Sadly it (. But that's all we found. Maybe someone will add something else on the seals. Most of them we have not been able to identify.
Thanks in advance.

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Re: Théodore Tonnelier NECESSAIRE DE PIQUE-NIQUE

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 4:25 am
by Zilver2
You're welcome.

Re: Théodore Tonnelier NECESSAIRE DE PIQUE-NIQUE

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 4:39 am
by dognose
The coronet is perhaps that of a Marquis.

See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_heraldry

Trev.

Re: Théodore Tonnelier NECESSAIRE DE PIQUE-NIQUE

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 6:04 am
by avisrara
Oh, yes! This is exactly the Marquis! Thank you! How exciting ..
Do you think it LM, or CM?

Re: Théodore Tonnelier NECESSAIRE DE PIQUE-NIQUE

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 6:16 am
by dognose
To me, it looks like 'LM' or 'ML'.

Trev.

Re: Théodore Tonnelier NECESSAIRE DE PIQUE-NIQUE

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 6:20 am
by avisrara
Sorry for my English! Do you realize I'm using google translator. And yet I have not found how to correct or delete your messages (
LM and ML .. I will try to find it) As far as I knew he had to live after 1823 or at the time. This reduces the number of little marquis)
Thank you again!