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silver french strainer
Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2015 10:20 am
by Hogiefly
Hi can anyone help ID this maker and if it is french and what sort of age it might be i can only go on what other items it came with where french .thanks Dave
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Re: silver french strainer
Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2015 10:30 am
by dognose
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Trev.
Re: silver french strainer
Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2015 1:57 pm
by Hogiefly
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Sorry, new to site - thanks for help
Re: silver french strainer
Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2015 2:14 pm
by dognose
To me, it looked like the word 'ITALY' above what may be the remains of an Italian hallmark, but it would need a high definition close-up of that lower maybe mark to say for sure.
Trev.
Re: silver french strainer
Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2015 3:56 pm
by Aleck_Back
dognose wrote:To me, it looked like the word 'ITALY' ...
Hi!
Trev, I think itβs not right.
Country name ITALY in Italian is written ITALIA. Italian master would not sign his product in English.
Regards, Aleck
Re: silver french strainer
Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 3:57 am
by amena
Italian master would not sign his product in English.
Why not? Especially in cities where tourism is very popular, it is quite common to use marks in English. Almost always, however, it is silverplate, if there are no other legal marks.
Re: silver french strainer
Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 7:48 am
by AG2012
One of the most famous - MARIO BUCCELLATI; most of their silver is marked either ``Italy`` or ``Made in Italy``
http://www.925-1000.com/forum/viewtopic ... 03&p=66176
Re: silver french strainer
Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 11:55 am
by Aleck_Back
AG2012 wrote:One of the most famous - MARIO BUCCELLATI...
Let it be!
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However M. BUCCELLATI β 20 century, high-tech. Indeed, flows of tourists. Primarily Americans.
In the mid-70s, my grandfather brought back from Paris and gave me a screwdriver, on which was written MADE IN GERMANY. This is understandable - the European Union.
But strainer (silver French) β old (semi old). Where there could take ITALY? Compare the inscription (the second β from Mario Buccellati):
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The first inscription - low-tech. Surface - clumsy. Maybe the master has bitten her? With anger? ;)
If there really is written ITALY, then it is not an old tea strainer, but modern, probably Chinese fake. Why not? Chinese - very talented people! But with the stamps they are not all right.
Kind regards,
Aleck
Re: silver french strainer
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 7:08 am
by AG2012
Amazing hand engraved mid 20th century boxes by Mario.
Re: silver french strainer
Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2015 8:34 am
by AG2012
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One of the boxes hand engraved by Mario Buccellati about 1950 after the painting by Pompeo Calvi (Ticinese gate,Milan,1857)
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Recently made boxes with Muslim holy places are sold for insane prices in the Persian Gulf countries.
Re: silver french strainer
Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2015 7:52 pm
by Aleck_Back
Amazing! Interesting works. Mario - really cool master.
By the way, you, AG2012, right. And Trev too: after the 2nd World War some Italian masters wrote on products MADE IN ITALY. For example, Gino Peruzzi of Florence:
But in respect of the French tea strainer, I still believe that if there is written ITALY, then it is a fake!
Re: silver french strainer
Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2015 7:15 am
by Hogiefly
Thank for the ideas on the strainer .i have done an acid test and shows it silver . the idea its a fake i dont think it is .as i bought several teams in the same lot at auction that all came from the same owner all of which turn out are genuine. Thanks again