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by fb55chevy
Wed Dec 08, 2010 6:14 pm
Forum: Other Countries
Topic: Chalice with photos
Replies: 34
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Re: Chalice with photos

Thanks for the clarification on the Cyrillic lettering. Do you know what sort of tool would have been used to produce the broad scrape marks on the bottom of the base (some look like ridges)? I am curious how that was done. Also, was it common for hallmarks to show up as raised spots on the top/good...
by fb55chevy
Tue Dec 07, 2010 11:36 am
Forum: Other Countries
Topic: Chalice with photos
Replies: 34
Views: 13318

Re: Chalice with photos

I would like to understand the meaning of the NW or MN, 65 or C5, and C. engravings on the bottom, if possible. Thanks.
by fb55chevy
Mon Dec 06, 2010 7:37 pm
Forum: Other Countries
Topic: Chalice with photos
Replies: 34
Views: 13318

Re: Chalice with photos

Let me state clearly that the purpose of my questions was to identify when and where the chalice was made. I had hoped that the hallmarks would answer those questions. It was through rather remarkable circumstances that the chalice was located. Newspaper stories about the chalice in 1946 included in...
by fb55chevy
Mon Dec 06, 2010 7:00 pm
Forum: Other Countries
Topic: Chalice with photos
Replies: 34
Views: 13318

Re: Chalice with photos

I believe these photos will work, and I will appreciate any information you can provide regarding the various marks on the underside of the chalice. No matter what we learn about this vessel, it holds importance to the Baptists in the Republic of Georgia who live out their faith as a minority and wh...
by fb55chevy
Mon Dec 06, 2010 4:07 pm
Forum: Other Countries
Topic: Chalice with photos
Replies: 34
Views: 13318

Re: Chalice with photos

Hmmm. I need some help. The photos here are not focused on the center, and they are fuzzy. My file photos are nice and clear.
by fb55chevy
Mon Dec 06, 2010 4:03 pm
Forum: Other Countries
Topic: Chalice with photos
Replies: 34
Views: 13318

Re: Chalice with photos

I have a number of additional photos, but I will use these two to see how they turn out here. A typed note was glued to the bottom of the chalice, stating that it was 17th century Florentine. Other papers state 14th century. Neither was ever verified. The first two are of a vertical area near the So...
by fb55chevy
Thu Dec 02, 2010 8:55 pm
Forum: Other Countries
Topic: Chalice with photos
Replies: 34
Views: 13318

Re: Chalice with photos

You mentioned gilding and the fact that the markings look gilded too. I do not understand why the photo of the bottom looked gold in the reproduction when it is a silver-gray color to the observer. What is the gilding that would have been done after the markings were made?
by fb55chevy
Thu Dec 02, 2010 8:45 pm
Forum: Other Countries
Topic: Chalice with photos
Replies: 34
Views: 13318

Re: Chalice with photos

The chalice is gold on all surfaces except for the bottom of the base, which is all silver. Is it possible that earlier markings could have been filled in with a silver substance when the Soviet markings were made? There is an area on the base that makes me wonder. I will post additional photos this...
by fb55chevy
Thu Dec 02, 2010 5:43 pm
Forum: Other Countries
Topic: Chalice with photos
Replies: 34
Views: 13318

Re: Chalice with photos

I am new at this and learning as I go. I started out seeing only what looked official, and this morning when I searched over the underside of the chalice, I was surprised that there was more. I will have to take more photos and post them later this week. I am deeply appreciative of the help I am rec...
by fb55chevy
Thu Dec 02, 2010 2:36 pm
Forum: Other Countries
Topic: Chalice with photos
Replies: 34
Views: 13318

Re: Chalice with photos

Postnikov, When the chalice was moved from Tbilisi to Moscow and the hallmarking was made, would the Soviets have tested the silver and truly known its content, or would they have chosen 800 to be "good enough" as a description? One other thing I failed to mention is that the pastor who to...
by fb55chevy
Thu Dec 02, 2010 1:09 pm
Forum: Other Countries
Topic: Chalice with photos
Replies: 34
Views: 13318

Re: Chalice with photos

Thanks so much for your time and expertise in thinking this through. Let me give you more background information. In 1946 a prominent Georgia Baptist minister made a three-week tour of Russia as part of a war relief delegation. While there he visited many sites, including Moscow, Minsk, Leningrad, S...
by fb55chevy
Wed Dec 01, 2010 5:02 pm
Forum: Other Countries
Topic: Chalice with photos
Replies: 34
Views: 13318

Re: Chalice with photos

Image

Here is a current photo.
by fb55chevy
Tue Nov 30, 2010 11:34 pm
Forum: Other Countries
Topic: Chalice with photos
Replies: 34
Views: 13318

Re: Chalice with photos

I do not understand the confusion. The photograph was taken in 1946 [the number is 46, not 16] at a professional studio. The photos of the markings on this chalice were taken earlier this month. I have the chalice in hand, so you are seeing what I see. Those who made a gift of the chalice in 1946 in...
by fb55chevy
Tue Nov 30, 2010 5:43 pm
Forum: Other Countries
Topic: Chalice with photos
Replies: 34
Views: 13318

Re: Chalice with photos

No, this is a studio photo of the chalice, and enlarged photos of the actual markings on the bottom of the same object (for some reason they show up in a gold color, though they are in silver).
by fb55chevy
Tue Nov 30, 2010 3:21 pm
Forum: Other Countries
Topic: Chalice with photos
Replies: 34
Views: 13318

Chalice with photos

There are three markings on this chalice: Circle - profile of a male, probably wearing a helmet with a visor, facing right Oval - number 800, female profile facing right, triangle with point faced left toward the female profile Square - Roman numberal II The chalice is gold plated silver and engrave...

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