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- Wed Dec 08, 2010 6:14 pm
- Forum: Other Countries
- Topic: Chalice with photos
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Re: Chalice with photos
Thanks for the clarification on the Cyrillic lettering. Do you know what sort of tool would have been used to produce the broad scrape marks on the bottom of the base (some look like ridges)? I am curious how that was done. Also, was it common for hallmarks to show up as raised spots on the top/good...
- Tue Dec 07, 2010 11:36 am
- Forum: Other Countries
- Topic: Chalice with photos
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Re: Chalice with photos
I would like to understand the meaning of the NW or MN, 65 or C5, and C. engravings on the bottom, if possible. Thanks.
- Mon Dec 06, 2010 7:37 pm
- Forum: Other Countries
- Topic: Chalice with photos
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Re: Chalice with photos
Let me state clearly that the purpose of my questions was to identify when and where the chalice was made. I had hoped that the hallmarks would answer those questions. It was through rather remarkable circumstances that the chalice was located. Newspaper stories about the chalice in 1946 included in...
- Mon Dec 06, 2010 7:00 pm
- Forum: Other Countries
- Topic: Chalice with photos
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Re: Chalice with photos
I believe these photos will work, and I will appreciate any information you can provide regarding the various marks on the underside of the chalice. No matter what we learn about this vessel, it holds importance to the Baptists in the Republic of Georgia who live out their faith as a minority and wh...
- Mon Dec 06, 2010 4:07 pm
- Forum: Other Countries
- Topic: Chalice with photos
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Re: Chalice with photos
Hmmm. I need some help. The photos here are not focused on the center, and they are fuzzy. My file photos are nice and clear.
- Mon Dec 06, 2010 4:03 pm
- Forum: Other Countries
- Topic: Chalice with photos
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Re: Chalice with photos
I have a number of additional photos, but I will use these two to see how they turn out here. A typed note was glued to the bottom of the chalice, stating that it was 17th century Florentine. Other papers state 14th century. Neither was ever verified. The first two are of a vertical area near the So...
- Thu Dec 02, 2010 8:55 pm
- Forum: Other Countries
- Topic: Chalice with photos
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Re: Chalice with photos
You mentioned gilding and the fact that the markings look gilded too. I do not understand why the photo of the bottom looked gold in the reproduction when it is a silver-gray color to the observer. What is the gilding that would have been done after the markings were made?
- Thu Dec 02, 2010 8:45 pm
- Forum: Other Countries
- Topic: Chalice with photos
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Re: Chalice with photos
The chalice is gold on all surfaces except for the bottom of the base, which is all silver. Is it possible that earlier markings could have been filled in with a silver substance when the Soviet markings were made? There is an area on the base that makes me wonder. I will post additional photos this...
- Thu Dec 02, 2010 5:43 pm
- Forum: Other Countries
- Topic: Chalice with photos
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Re: Chalice with photos
I am new at this and learning as I go. I started out seeing only what looked official, and this morning when I searched over the underside of the chalice, I was surprised that there was more. I will have to take more photos and post them later this week. I am deeply appreciative of the help I am rec...
- Thu Dec 02, 2010 2:36 pm
- Forum: Other Countries
- Topic: Chalice with photos
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Re: Chalice with photos
Postnikov, When the chalice was moved from Tbilisi to Moscow and the hallmarking was made, would the Soviets have tested the silver and truly known its content, or would they have chosen 800 to be "good enough" as a description? One other thing I failed to mention is that the pastor who to...
- Thu Dec 02, 2010 1:09 pm
- Forum: Other Countries
- Topic: Chalice with photos
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Re: Chalice with photos
Thanks so much for your time and expertise in thinking this through. Let me give you more background information. In 1946 a prominent Georgia Baptist minister made a three-week tour of Russia as part of a war relief delegation. While there he visited many sites, including Moscow, Minsk, Leningrad, S...
- Wed Dec 01, 2010 5:02 pm
- Forum: Other Countries
- Topic: Chalice with photos
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Re: Chalice with photos
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Here is a current photo.
- Tue Nov 30, 2010 11:34 pm
- Forum: Other Countries
- Topic: Chalice with photos
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Re: Chalice with photos
I do not understand the confusion. The photograph was taken in 1946 [the number is 46, not 16] at a professional studio. The photos of the markings on this chalice were taken earlier this month. I have the chalice in hand, so you are seeing what I see. Those who made a gift of the chalice in 1946 in...
- Tue Nov 30, 2010 5:43 pm
- Forum: Other Countries
- Topic: Chalice with photos
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Re: Chalice with photos
No, this is a studio photo of the chalice, and enlarged photos of the actual markings on the bottom of the same object (for some reason they show up in a gold color, though they are in silver).
- Tue Nov 30, 2010 3:21 pm
- Forum: Other Countries
- Topic: Chalice with photos
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Chalice with photos
There are three markings on this chalice: Circle - profile of a male, probably wearing a helmet with a visor, facing right Oval - number 800, female profile facing right, triangle with point faced left toward the female profile Square - Roman numberal II The chalice is gold plated silver and engrave...