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- Thu Jun 02, 2022 12:23 pm
- Forum: French Silver
- Topic: What are these insects on these french spoons and forks?
- Replies: 11
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Re: What are these insects on these french spoons and forks?
Yes, I know the image is not showing! I am busily trying to find the EDIT button that FAQ claims is somewhere....... I don't recall seeing an EDIT feature ( they must have taken their cues from Twitter). The tag has an extra /img....I just cut/pasted the address into another Browser Tab. Maybe the ...
- Thu Jun 02, 2022 12:20 pm
- Forum: French Silver
- Topic: What are these insects on these french spoons and forks?
- Replies: 11
- Views: 2435
Re: What are these insects on these french spoons and forks?
[img] [IMG]https://www.hebergeur-image.com/upload/78.196.157.144-6298d8a2666d1.jpg[/img] [/img] The anvil engraved with insects, the bigorne, was an integral part of the hallmarking process and the jeweller or silversmith was required to leave the bigorne imprint visible after polishing. Because of...
- Thu Jun 02, 2022 11:26 am
- Forum: French Silver
- Topic: What are these insects on these french spoons and forks?
- Replies: 11
- Views: 2435
Re: What are these insects on these french spoons and forks?
In regards to the question as to HOW these insects were engraved on the die, the French mint, which supplied hallmarks and the engraved BIGORNE anvils, used a reducing mill, which is based on a pantograph. In order words, a large model would be engraved in a softer material, even plaster, as the th...
- Thu Dec 30, 2021 12:25 am
- Forum: French Silver
- Topic: Help identifying hallmark on fork - P.H.
- Replies: 8
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Re: Help identifying hallmark on fork - P.H.
Thanks....I would like to see at least one page (maybe where P.H.) is found.... :-)
- Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:54 pm
- Forum: French Silver
- Topic: Help identifying hallmark on fork - P.H.
- Replies: 8
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Re: Help identifying hallmark on fork - P.H.
My apologies; I didn't notice your post count and see now that you are relatively new to the forums. Welcome! Thanks ...yeah newbie....super interesting...do the books have a picture of the hallmark by the maker or do they just describe the hallmark? Finally, the other two marks are the Paris assay...
- Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:45 pm
- Forum: French Silver
- Topic: What are these insects on these french spoons and forks?
- Replies: 11
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Re: What are these insects on these french spoons and forks?
Ok one more question on this subject.
HOW DID ONE CARVE OUT SUCH INTRICACIES IN SUCH A SMALL SCALE?!?!
Seriously baffled by that ...you can see the leg thorns and abdomen segmentation.
HOW DID ONE CARVE OUT SUCH INTRICACIES IN SUCH A SMALL SCALE?!?!
Seriously baffled by that ...you can see the leg thorns and abdomen segmentation.
- Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:32 pm
- Forum: French Silver
- Topic: What are these insects on these french spoons and forks?
- Replies: 11
- Views: 2435
Re: What are these insects on these french spoons and forks?
Wow thank you all...super interesting...I never knew about this.
What a wonderful rabbit hole i've been in over the last few days.
Thank you Thank You Thank you.
What a wonderful rabbit hole i've been in over the last few days.
Thank you Thank You Thank you.
- Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:20 pm
- Forum: French Silver
- Topic: Help identifying hallmark on fork and spoon - E (rabbit) S
- Replies: 3
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Re: Help identifying hallmark on fork and spoon - E (rabbit) S
you guys are amazing. I stumbled on Ernest Compere because of the rabbit, but since it wasn't the same last name I thought it wasn't a match. Cool that I recognized the address of 79 rue Quincampoix, Paris looks like Ernest was succeeded by his widow Leontine Compere. I'm surprised ES is not listed ...
- Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:07 pm
- Forum: French Silver
- Topic: Help identifying hallmark on spoon - Denne (I think)
- Replies: 4
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Re: Help identifying hallmark on spoon - Denne (I think)
My most humble thanks for your information....once I got the name I found a few more examples of the hallmark ad downloaded he images.
Thank you again
Thank you again
- Wed Dec 29, 2021 8:08 pm
- Forum: French Silver
- Topic: Help identifying hallmark on fork - P.H.
- Replies: 8
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Re: Help identifying hallmark on fork - P.H.
The maker is Pierre Rene Thomas Hellaine (see Arminjon I:2970). I think this must be a rather rare mark, since it was registered on 19 Mar 1808 and cancelled seventeen months later on 1 Sep 1809, by which time Hellaine had died. I have found very little information on him, though his widow, Lousie ...
- Wed Dec 29, 2021 8:01 pm
- Forum: French Silver
- Topic: Help identifying hallmark on fork - P.H.
- Replies: 8
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Re: Help identifying hallmark on fork - P.H.
Oh my goodness, thank you so much Blackstone,
Excuse my ignorance, but what is "(see Arminjon I:2970)" ?
Should I just google the word Arminjon?
Excuse my ignorance, but what is "(see Arminjon I:2970)" ?
Should I just google the word Arminjon?
- Tue Dec 28, 2021 8:25 pm
- Forum: French Silver
- Topic: What are these insects on these french spoons and forks?
- Replies: 11
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What are these insects on these french spoons and forks?
so on the forks and spoons, of which I'm trying to find the silversmith, on the topside are marks that appear to be insects. I did not find anything remotely similar in my research. They all seem slightly different and they are not bound in a cartouche or diamond. They all have the Minerva stamp and...
- Tue Dec 28, 2021 8:03 pm
- Forum: French Silver
- Topic: Help identifying hallmark on fork and spoon - unreadable to me
- Replies: 1
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Help identifying hallmark on fork and spoon - unreadable to me
These are the same shape and look as the E (rabbit) S I have posted, but the hallmarks are very worn. Included are the same pics of the front/back of the E (rabbit) S, but seriously they look the same. I have included all of the hallmarks, but I think it is only going to be recognizable from the sha...
- Tue Dec 28, 2021 7:37 pm
- Forum: French Silver
- Topic: Help identifying hallmark on fork and spoon - E (rabbit) S
- Replies: 3
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Help identifying hallmark on fork and spoon - E (rabbit) S
One more hallmark that I can't find.
This one is has an E , a rabbit, a line then an S
![Image](https://i.imgur.com/UOCaXnU.jpeg)
![Image](https://i.imgur.com/BlDqgCj.jpeg)
![Image](https://i.imgur.com/RgobnYd.jpeg)
![Image](https://i.imgur.com/ADpW5Vq.png)
This one is has an E , a rabbit, a line then an S
![Image](https://i.imgur.com/UOCaXnU.jpeg)
![Image](https://i.imgur.com/BlDqgCj.jpeg)
![Image](https://i.imgur.com/RgobnYd.jpeg)
![Image](https://i.imgur.com/ADpW5Vq.png)
- Tue Dec 28, 2021 7:10 pm
- Forum: French Silver
- Topic: Help identifying hallmark on spoon - Denne (I think)
- Replies: 4
- Views: 1308
Re: Help identifying hallmark on spoon - Denne (I think)
Hey trev,
Here ya go
![Image](https://i.imgur.com/OCw5HNX.jpg)
![Image](https://i.imgur.com/zJ3zYf8.jpg)
Here ya go
![Image](https://i.imgur.com/OCw5HNX.jpg)
![Image](https://i.imgur.com/zJ3zYf8.jpg)
- Tue Dec 28, 2021 5:04 pm
- Forum: French Silver
- Topic: Help identifying hallmark on spoon - Denne (I think)
- Replies: 4
- Views: 1308
Help identifying hallmark on spoon - Denne (I think)
Continuing on my quest. Similar utensil (this time a spoon) as before, but different hallmark. https://i.imgur.com/e4LFGql.jpg https://i.imgur.com/CTWfqgO.jpg https://i.imgur.com/EYtex8F.jpg the marking V.D. is an ancestor I think...but I don't recall anyone with the last name that starts with D...s...
- Tue Dec 28, 2021 4:54 pm
- Forum: French Silver
- Topic: Help identifying hallmark on fork - P.H.
- Replies: 8
- Views: 2299
Re: Help identifying hallmark on fork - P.H.
sorry but I must not have posted the IMG tag correctly.
I'd be glad to delete the post and try again or Edit the posy but I can't do either.
trying a different way to post an image
![Image](https://i.imgur.com/uZgV6ds.jpeg)
![Image](https://i.imgur.com/opgiHbX.jpg)
![Image](https://i.imgur.com/tlzo6Uy.jpg)
I'd be glad to delete the post and try again or Edit the posy but I can't do either.
trying a different way to post an image
![Image](https://i.imgur.com/uZgV6ds.jpeg)
![Image](https://i.imgur.com/opgiHbX.jpg)
![Image](https://i.imgur.com/tlzo6Uy.jpg)
- Tue Dec 28, 2021 4:38 pm
- Forum: French Silver
- Topic: Help identifying hallmark on fork - P.H.
- Replies: 8
- Views: 2299
Help identifying hallmark on fork - P.H.
I found most of my ancestors' silverware makers but a few escape me.
Here is one that has a P and H, and something else which I have no clue as to what they are.
Hope someone can help
![Image](https://imgur.com/gallery/DSmY3JE)
Here is one that has a P and H, and something else which I have no clue as to what they are.
Hope someone can help