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by Bru5no
Mon Nov 11, 2024 8:00 pm
Forum: General Questions
Topic: French assay office marks
Replies: 2
Views: 11772

Re: French assay office marks

I try to build the same lists ! The main problem I see in the published (French) books is that they never mention the départements that were conquered in Europe by the revolutionnary or napoleonic armies and that were lost/freed after Waterloo (about 24 départements ). Moreover, there can be 2 or 3 ...
by Bru5no
Mon Nov 11, 2024 6:55 pm
Forum: French Silver
Topic: Diminutive French Chocolate Pot
Replies: 9
Views: 2151

Re: Diminutive French Chocolate Pot

The "coeur de Lys" is in the coat of arms of the city of Orléans. That's why it was used by the silversmiths in their marks. It is sometimes simplified in three pebbles, but here in the mark of Etienne Tremblay, we can actually see a "coeur de lys". You can see it also under the ...
by Bru5no
Mon Nov 11, 2024 6:49 pm
Forum: French Silver
Topic: PJL Mark on a Very Large French Silver Spoon
Replies: 14
Views: 3858

Re: PJL Mark on a Very Large French Silver Spoon

Sorry if my message comes late, Pierre Jérôme Letellier died in 1843 in Beaugency where his daughter lived with her husband, Jules Simon Biguet, who was also a silversmith. I know another mark with the letters PJL very similar but with a bee instead of a cross (and also for Orléans). I encountered t...
by Bru5no
Mon Sep 16, 2024 8:08 am
Forum: French Silver
Topic: French tastevin departement Orlean
Replies: 10
Views: 2475

Re: French tastevin departement Orlean

Christophe Ginter, in Les 6000 poinçons de l'orfèvrerie française sous Louis XVI (1775-1791), says the silversmith could be Jean André Burand, who started to work in 1740 in Moulins.
The jurande mark T is for 1778-79.
by Bru5no
Mon Sep 16, 2024 8:00 am
Forum: French Silver
Topic: 18th century French spoon with only two marks
Replies: 5
Views: 1919

Re: 18th century French spoon with only two marks

Hi, I've checked Ginter's book : IIL mark is recorded but the silversmith has not been identified. The city is St Omer. This is coherent with the big closed crown of the silversmith's mark. This crown is common in the north of France. The almanach des Monnoies 1788 must have forgotten to update the ...
by Bru5no
Sat Sep 14, 2024 3:41 pm
Forum: French Silver
Topic: 18th century French spoon with only two marks
Replies: 5
Views: 1919

Re: 18th century French spoon with only two marks

If you like sources of the time, the Almanach des Monnoies for 1788 shows the new (since 1784) townmarks : https://books.google.fr/books?id=1ZtMAAAAcAAJ&printsec=frontcover&hl=fr&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false Twonmarks are shown at the very end of the book...
by Bru5no
Sat Sep 14, 2024 9:33 am
Forum: French Silver
Topic: 18th century French spoon with only two marks
Replies: 5
Views: 1919

Re: 18th century French spoon with only two marks

Hi,

The city hallmark should be for St Martin en Ré, juridiction of La Rochelle. The year is 1790.
by Bru5no
Sat Sep 14, 2024 5:34 am
Forum: French Silver
Topic: French tastevin departement Orlean
Replies: 10
Views: 2475

Re: French tastevin departement Orlean

Hi, There are usually 4 marks on ancient French silver (pre-revolutionary i.e. Ancient régime , before 1789). The last one is the décharge , it should be on the outer side of the tastevin. It is sometimes missing. The 3 marks on your picture are the silversmith's, easilly identified (with letters IB...

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