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- Mon Nov 11, 2024 8:00 pm
- Forum: General Questions
- Topic: French assay office marks
- Replies: 2
- Views: 11772
Re: French assay office marks
I try to build the same lists ! The main problem I see in the published (French) books is that they never mention the départements that were conquered in Europe by the revolutionnary or napoleonic armies and that were lost/freed after Waterloo (about 24 départements ). Moreover, there can be 2 or 3 ...
- Mon Nov 11, 2024 6:55 pm
- Forum: French Silver
- Topic: Diminutive French Chocolate Pot
- Replies: 9
- Views: 2151
Re: Diminutive French Chocolate Pot
The "coeur de Lys" is in the coat of arms of the city of Orléans. That's why it was used by the silversmiths in their marks. It is sometimes simplified in three pebbles, but here in the mark of Etienne Tremblay, we can actually see a "coeur de lys". You can see it also under the ...
- Mon Nov 11, 2024 6:49 pm
- Forum: French Silver
- Topic: PJL Mark on a Very Large French Silver Spoon
- Replies: 14
- Views: 3858
Re: PJL Mark on a Very Large French Silver Spoon
Sorry if my message comes late, Pierre Jérôme Letellier died in 1843 in Beaugency where his daughter lived with her husband, Jules Simon Biguet, who was also a silversmith. I know another mark with the letters PJL very similar but with a bee instead of a cross (and also for Orléans). I encountered t...
- Mon Sep 16, 2024 8:08 am
- Forum: French Silver
- Topic: French tastevin departement Orlean
- Replies: 10
- Views: 2475
Re: French tastevin departement Orlean
Christophe Ginter, in Les 6000 poinçons de l'orfèvrerie française sous Louis XVI (1775-1791), says the silversmith could be Jean André Burand, who started to work in 1740 in Moulins.
The jurande mark T is for 1778-79.
The jurande mark T is for 1778-79.
- Mon Sep 16, 2024 8:00 am
- Forum: French Silver
- Topic: 18th century French spoon with only two marks
- Replies: 5
- Views: 1919
Re: 18th century French spoon with only two marks
Hi, I've checked Ginter's book : IIL mark is recorded but the silversmith has not been identified. The city is St Omer. This is coherent with the big closed crown of the silversmith's mark. This crown is common in the north of France. The almanach des Monnoies 1788 must have forgotten to update the ...
- Sat Sep 14, 2024 3:41 pm
- Forum: French Silver
- Topic: 18th century French spoon with only two marks
- Replies: 5
- Views: 1919
Re: 18th century French spoon with only two marks
If you like sources of the time, the Almanach des Monnoies for 1788 shows the new (since 1784) townmarks : https://books.google.fr/books?id=1ZtMAAAAcAAJ&printsec=frontcover&hl=fr&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false Twonmarks are shown at the very end of the book...
- Sat Sep 14, 2024 9:33 am
- Forum: French Silver
- Topic: 18th century French spoon with only two marks
- Replies: 5
- Views: 1919
Re: 18th century French spoon with only two marks
Hi,
The city hallmark should be for St Martin en Ré, juridiction of La Rochelle. The year is 1790.
The city hallmark should be for St Martin en Ré, juridiction of La Rochelle. The year is 1790.
- Sat Sep 14, 2024 5:34 am
- Forum: French Silver
- Topic: French tastevin departement Orlean
- Replies: 10
- Views: 2475
Re: French tastevin departement Orlean
Hi, There are usually 4 marks on ancient French silver (pre-revolutionary i.e. Ancient régime , before 1789). The last one is the décharge , it should be on the outer side of the tastevin. It is sometimes missing. The 3 marks on your picture are the silversmith's, easilly identified (with letters IB...