Dutch silver box, mostly identified marks

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teelee
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Dutch silver box, mostly identified marks

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Forgive the quality of the second photo, my cell phone is crap and it's the only camera I have but I wanted to make sure I followed the posting rules. I'm a first time poster here. That being said the first photo contains all the marks on the silver box in the second photo. I read the information in the other posts and my question is simple. What does the mark that resembles the boat (marked number 4 in the 1st image) represent? I've seen it referred to in these forums as 'another pseudo mark', but for what? I've found images of it but it's never described or explained in any way

I assume this piece is Philip Hovingh's work, a registered silversmith from 1832-1851 in Oude Pekela, Netherlands. I'm aware the images marked 1 in the first photo are the city of Amsterdam marks, the three Andreas crosses. The mark found on the silver box I have is circled in red, so we're looking at a pseudo 16-17th century mark. Both the key and the right facing lion passant confirm that. The key being used on products bound for export from 1853 till 1953. The key would also mean that the box was made 2 years after Hovingh was no longer a registered silversmith, which is interesting. The mark of the right facing lion passant walking was used between 1814-1953. The number 2 below the lion represents that the silver is 833/1000 fineness. The letter H marking is a 16th century pseudo date letter. People have seen date marking with a letter code in Amsterdam as early as 1503, but there was no nationally standardized system until 1814. The piece I have is trying to pass as 17th century but I'm almost certain that it was made by Philip Hovingh, and even if it wasn't it is still a reproduction of the work from the Dutch gilded period. I suppose that would make this another example on here of an early Dutch forgery. Pretty cool.

Also please correct me if I'm mistaken on anything above. I got most of this information form these forums, but I could have mixed something up. I'm aware there's no H13 maker's mark for Hovingh. But anyway back to my question. Any idea on the image one, number 4? It looks like a boat or even a sailboat. I've read it's a pseudo mark, but anyone know for what?
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Re: Dutch silver box, mostly identified marks

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These are better quality photos I took tonight with a friends camera, but still not the best
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Re: Dutch silver box, mostly identified marks

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Hi welcome to the forum,

To answer your question the sailboat or ship is an imitation of a master’s mark.

The Amsterdam city mark you have encircled is not complete and an example of faded/rubbed Amsterdam city mark. The Amsterdam guild mark consist of three pole-wise placed Andreas crosses. The one at your box consist of two Andreas crosses crowned an imitation mark of the Amsterdam city guild mark.

The fancy letter H is an imitation of a date letter.

H13 for Phillip Hovingh,Look at the serifs of the letter H of this particular maker's mark
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H13 up site down, in a rectangle for; Herbert Hooijkaas registered 1875-1909; often mistaken for the (H13) mark of Phillip Hovingh, Oude Pekela, registered 1832-1851 and the pseudo date letter H which is contributed to Hooijkaas but also used by Hendrik Preijer, Hoorn, registered 1896-1909, Both; Hooijkaas & Preijer used variants of the same pseudo marks; H13 (fat, flat serif) for Herbert Hooijkaas (unrecorded), an old ship or pseudo maker's mark, pseudo city mark for Amsterdam, H pseudo date letter.
For more information about the marks of Herbert Hooijkaas and more see:
http://www.925-1000.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=28590

A miniature made by Herbert Hooijkaas 1875-1883 (H13):

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Please check your box for an assay office mark and proper Dutch date letter; both could be small and hidden in the decoration. I believe your box to be made by; Fa.(Firm) H. Hooijkaas 1874-2008; Zilverfabriek Schoonhoven, made late 19th-early 20th century .



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