Hi again,
I just picked up a Russian bracelet for my fiancee. I am trying to find info on the maker of this piece. Searches so far have not led me to who this might be. Any help is appreciated.
Lucent
Help with Russian Makers Mark
Re: Help with Russian Makers Mark
Hi,
Take a look here.Everything explained by member Qrt.S.
http://www.925-1000.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=38898
Except for Greek letter Delta for Moscow in your bracelet.
What`s the weight to compare with number ``3`` in Kokoshnik mark ?
Regards
Take a look here.Everything explained by member Qrt.S.
http://www.925-1000.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=38898
Except for Greek letter Delta for Moscow in your bracelet.
What`s the weight to compare with number ``3`` in Kokoshnik mark ?
Regards
Re: Help with Russian Makers Mark
The weight should be 22 g or more, but less than 29 g.
(56 is actually .583 but approximately 14 K).
Searching for maker
(56 is actually .583 but approximately 14 K).
Searching for maker
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Re: Help with Russian Makers Mark
Thanks for the reply. The weight is actually just under 14 grams. Is that an issue? The first Russian Cup I purchased proved to be a fake... I hope I am not 0 for 2.
Thanks
Thanks
Re: Help with Russian Makers Mark
I calculated 1 zolotnik as 4, 26 g pure gold.
Number 3 indicates the tax was paid on 3 zolotniks, i.e. for 12,78g gold (pure or 14 K is the question).
If the weight was calculated for 12, 78 pure gold then 14 K weight would be 22 g but if calculated as
4, 26 X 3 the result is 12, 78 g. I cannot find any reliable reference of the calculation.
I have attached the image of the clasp. Red arrow points to rather unusual color of gold solder being white. Gold solder is always distinctively yellow. This is a weak point of clasps and they often break and need repair. On the other hand, unscrupulous dealers transfer clasps with lucrative marks. Cannot tell for sure, I am phobic with Russian silver.
Hopefully, other members of the forum will shed more light, particularly on calculation issue.
Regards
Number 3 indicates the tax was paid on 3 zolotniks, i.e. for 12,78g gold (pure or 14 K is the question).
If the weight was calculated for 12, 78 pure gold then 14 K weight would be 22 g but if calculated as
4, 26 X 3 the result is 12, 78 g. I cannot find any reliable reference of the calculation.
I have attached the image of the clasp. Red arrow points to rather unusual color of gold solder being white. Gold solder is always distinctively yellow. This is a weak point of clasps and they often break and need repair. On the other hand, unscrupulous dealers transfer clasps with lucrative marks. Cannot tell for sure, I am phobic with Russian silver.
Hopefully, other members of the forum will shed more light, particularly on calculation issue.
Regards
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Re: Help with Russian Makers Mark
Thanks for the reply.... I read the other post you mentioned and noticed based on her numeric code for the weight, I am within spec in that regard. I put the clasp under a microscope, and the gold soldier is actually the same color as the clasp, it must have been a weird reflection of some sort. I notice in the pic it looks like the white goes even past the clasp a bit.
I will keep searching out the maker, hopefully, will have some luck in that regard.
Thanks again.
Lucent
I will keep searching out the maker, hopefully, will have some luck in that regard.
Thanks again.
Lucent
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Re: Help with Russian Makers Mark
I still have not found the maker, but will keep looking...... really nice piece of jewelry in person.