mystery inscription

[david8]

can anyone help with the names and who they are inscribed on this porringer please, the inscription was done by arthur pitt

[juantotree]

Probably a christening gift to a person with a lot of names.

Martin

[david8]

the first name i am not so sure but i have researched the second name it is Lewis Vernon Harcourt secretary of state for the colonies

[dognose]

Hi,

Just to get the ball rolling:

Hartman, hon. mrs. — hon. Dorothy, 2 dau. of 1 and last baron Bayford, P.C., T.D. (d. 1940); b. 27 Aug. 1907: m. 1932, Henry Felix Lister Hartman (d. 1963 ); 1 s., 1 dau.: Almeley Manor, Hereford (Eardisley 239).

Source: Kelly's Handbook to the Titled, Landed and Official Classes, Volume 95 - 1969


Henry Felix Lister Hartmann was born 29th May 1901

Source: The Plantagenet Roll of the Blood Royal - 1994

Trev.

[david8]

thanks Trev, Henry Felix Lister Hartmann : his “Lister” name is the maiden name of Lewis Vernon Harcourt’s mother, and the engraving says “godfather.” This is could be a christening vessel - to pour a couple drops of holy water on the baby’s head

[dognose]

To me, it looks, somewhat oddly, more like a wine taster.

Are there any marks on it?

Trev.

[dognose]

Another snippet of information:

Constance Mary Lister, m. 20 Ap. 1892, James Frederick Maximilian Hartmann ; and has issue le to 3c. le. James Frederick Lister Hartmann, b. 25 Feb. 1893. 2e. Robert Alexander Lister Hartmann, b. 5 Jan. 1896. 3e. Henry Felix Lister Hartmann, b. 29 May 1901.

Source: The Plantagenet Roll of the Blood Royal - 1994

Trev.

[david8]

yes it was made by william comyns in 1898 and has arthur pitson of london inscribed on base too

[david8]

also it is 6.5inches wide with handle and 182 grams in weight

[dognose]

Arthur Pitson was an upmarket jeweller (179, New Bond Street). He was in business up until around 1923.

Trev.

[DianaGaleM]

It looks to me like a "porringer." They were often given as Christening gifts.

[kerangoumar2]

and to me it looks like a waste of space as there are NO images. trevor - i believe any posts that do not contain or that drop the images should be banished to a dark corner of the site. considering that this forum is meant to educate and expand our knowledge, it seems rude for people to ignore the basic requirements, ie photos. if one posts here asking for help it's the least that can be done.

[dognose]

Hi kerangoumar2,

For me, the images are showing.

Trev.

[Waylander]

Ditto - no issues with the images for me.

Cheers

Waylander

[Traintime]

Six inches of snow and still recieving images on Pacific slope. I find missing images are most likely temporary carrier issues. Sometimes backing out and getting closer to the signal for the re-upload will clear it up. [We have had past permanent losses related to hosting site changes that are beyond anyone's control. Those images only get restored with an awful lot of work that may require new photos. Many old entries can only be enhanced by those willing to contribute new samples that match the original descriptions. Hint, hint everybody.]

[MiloRichards]

Heck that made me jump! That’s my dads name. Almost completely certain there’s no connection though