Flask with R inside a keystone- looking to id

[Beccamb]

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[Beccamb]

Im looking to identify the mark on this and also to see if it's silver.

[dognose]

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C.F. Rumpp & Sons.


C.F. Rumpp & Sons - Philadelphia - 1910

Trev.

[Beccamb]

Thanks, Trev!
So I think this was a PA railroad flask but the leather is gone. Thanks!!

[Charley3736]

But look at this thing for Rogers silver plate with a keystone and “R”

https://sha.org/assets/documents/Tradem ... leware.pdf



https://drive.google.com/open?id=12nDM7 ... -lqpSZPs5A

[dognose]

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To my knowledge the Roger's version of the mark was only used on flatware.


C.F. Rumpp & Sons - Philadelphia - 1903


C.F. Rumpp & Sons - Philadelphia - 1908

Trev.

[silverly]

From the USPTO site:




Word Mark RUMPP
Goods and Services (EXPIRED) IC 018. US 003. G & S: BILLFOLDS, LETTER CASES, TOILET CASES, PHOTO CASES, PASS CASES, CARD CASES, AND KEY CASES. FIRST USE: 19450301. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 19450301
Mark Drawing Code (3) DESIGN PLUS WORDS, LETTERS, AND/OR NUMBERS
Design Search Code 26.15.27 - Keystones
Serial Number 72240085
Filing Date March 3, 1966
Current Basis 1A
Original Filing Basis 1A
Registration Number 0831667
Registration Date July 11, 1967
Owner (REGISTRANT) EVANS-ARISTOCRAT INDUSTRIES, INC. CORPORATION NEW JERSEY 400-416 TRUMBULL ST. ELIZABETH NEW JERSEY
Type of Mark TRADEMARK
Register PRINCIPAL
Affidavit Text SECT 15.
Live/Dead Indicator DEAD

Not the exact mark we see on the flask, but it does show that Rumpp officially used an "R" in a keystone as part of their trademark.

[Traintime]

Thanks, Trev!
So I think this was a PA railroad flask but the leather is gone. Thanks!!

The Pennsylvania Railroad was not alone in using the keystone...many firms employed the "Keystone State" emblem to show where they were based. PRR did employ a keystone without any letters at times, but if letters are present they should be "PRR" or "PC" (for the Pennsylvania Company, parent holding firm for the various corporate entities). Other lines controlled by the firm in earlier times had other marks like a star..it's complicated.