HELP TO RECOGNISE EUROPEAN HALLMARKS ON MY CAKE SERVER

andrei1810 · Post by **andrei1810** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 12:03 pm

I HAVE THIS BEAUTIFUL CAKE SERVER. THERE ARE THREE HALLMARKS: 1. LONG SAW TEETH LIKE RAW WITH LINE ACROOS IT.
2. HORSE, DRAGON OR EAGLE LIKE IN THE CIRCLE.
3. LOOKS EITHER EILI RATH OR FILI RATH.
PLEASE, HELP TO IDENTIFY THE MAKER, YEAR AND COUNTRY.
THANKS.
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Post by **admin** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 4:34 pm

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andrei1810 · Post by **andrei1810** » Sun May 01, 2005 9:42 am

Here is a link to a picture with hallmarks:

finnegan · Post by **finnegan** » Tue May 03, 2005 2:20 pm

Hey Andrei,

Beautiful piece, ca. 1840 or 50 at a guess and northern European. I've had no luck with the marks, the closest match for a right facing, walking figure, with a staff over its shoulder is an 18th century mark from Yaroslavl in Russia which doesn't match up to the object in any way.

Not having any facts to offer, I'll give you my guesses. To me the marks look German, the mark of the standing figure looks like a city mark, but none I can find listed anywhere. The zigzag mark is an assayer's test mark where silver was removed for purity testing, it is seen on silver from many countries and is pretty common on antique German objects. The maker's mark might read - Eilbrath, which is a German name.

In any event, it is a beauty of an antique silver serving piece. I hope someone comes along with more exact info.

Fin

andrei1810 · Post by **andrei1810** » Wed May 04, 2005 11:08 pm

Hi! Thanks for the info. On your site I found German mark from Stuttgart, which has two city marks: early, 16c - 17c - rearing horse and 18c - running horse. it is really resembles rearing horse. When I look really close on this marks on your site and on my piece - it seems like two are the same marks. Let me know, what you think.
Thanks. andrei.

Post by **admin** » Sat May 07, 2005 4:43 pm

Hello Andrei,

There is a slight resemblance to the Stuttgart city mark, but only a resemblance, it is not the same mark. Have another look German Hallmarks, the legs are facing in the wrong direction.

Tom

andrei1810 · Post by **andrei1810** » Thu May 12, 2005 10:37 am

Hi Tom,
On my picture here the city mark i moved a little clockwise, so it does look like Stuttgart mark. When I put it right way and compared to the mark on this site it almost look identical.

andrei1810 · Post by **andrei1810** » Thu May 12, 2005 10:38 am

Forgot.
It is also looks like EILF RATH. F in EILF is very well visible.