unknown marks

[R ingo]

Hello,

a friend of mine got an old silver spoon an ask me to help him. The spoon looks to me like made in the Netherlands, so I would like to ask you for some help.
I have no idea, if the spoon is an original or if he was made later.

Kind regards, Ringo

[oel]

Hi Ringo,

My opinion an original old spoon, made in the Dutch city of Hoorn. The town mark is based on the coat of arms a music horn on a bow. See:
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=32028
The year letter is not clear to me, could be a D ?, the faded mark is the provincial standard mark, province of Holland, the lion rampant in shield under crown, introduced in the year 1663 . The maker's mark, I will check later, most likely unidentified.

Best,

Peter.

[R ingo]

Hello Peter,

I thank you very much for your help. Sadly it is not my spoon.

Best wishes,
Ringo

[oel]

The fig-shaped bowl merges directly into the flat molded stem. The stem is crowned by a double profile edge and a flower bud. This type of spoon was only made in the cities of Enhuizen and Hoorn. The maker's mark is possibly a bell (?), for; Claes and Reynier Bel, both registered in Hoorn, Reynier 1657....... and Claes 1667-1684. Reynier and Claes were known makers of this type of spoons. Perhaps the maker's mark is a cramp-iron, registered unknown 1637-1674, or a flower stem unidentified 1670...
Is it possible to get a clear, enhanced image of the year letter?

Indeed a rare and old occasion spoon.

Enjoy the weekend, regards,

Peter.

Source; Nederlands Klein Zilver B.W.G. Wttewaall jaar 1987 ISBN 90 6133 120 X

[R ingo]

Hello Peter,
I thank you very much.
I have only one Foto of the date letter. I think, it is not good enough. I have the spoon not here. But I think I can tomorrow make a better Foto.



Best wishes,
Ringo

[oel]

Hi Ringo,

While you are at it, could you please give us the exact length and weight of the spoon. Thanks.

Peter.

[R ingo]

Hello Peter,

I hope tomorrow I can give the exact length and weight of the spoon to you.

Best wishes,
Ringo

[R ingo]

Hello Peter,
exuse me for the late answer.
The spoon is 18,5 cm long and weights 45,8 g.
Here a better Foto of the marks.

Best wishes,
Ringo

[oel]

Hi, thanks, the weight compared to the length is correct for this type of ornamental spoon. I am waiting for some feedback regarding this spoon of one of my sparring partners. What can you tell about the provenance of this spoon, has it been a family piece?

Enjoy the festive season.

Peter.

[R ingo]

Hello Peter,

sorry for my late answer. The spoon comes from Hallig Hooge, North Frisia. But nobody knows, wether the spoon was a family objekt or was bought later.

Regards,
Ringo