Real or fake russian silver

[DodgyBeast]

Hi Everyone,

I'm new to silver collecting and I came accross some interesting cups.
I've been reading up on maker's and assayer's marks and found that one of the makers seems to predate the assay date by several years, which to me immediately seems suspicious, however I didn't notice anything else obviously fake about the cups.

What do you guys think about these stamps?
Any help is highly appreciated.

Pleas see the links for images below
https://ibb.co/L8z2mfC
https://ibb.co/F8HXgK3
https://ibb.co/TqBJ2GC
https://ibb.co/3rPSp1N
https://ibb.co/CPXYPZP

[dognose]

Hi,

Welcome to the Forum.

Please embed your images as very few members will click on links.

Trev.

[DodgyBeast]

[quote="DodgyBeast"]Hi Everyone,

I'm new to silver collecting and I came accross some interesting cups.
I've been reading up on maker's and assayer's marks and found that one of the makers seems to predate the assay date by several years, which to me immediately seems suspicious, however I didn't notice anything else obviously fake about the cups.

What do you guys think about these stamps?
Any help is highly appreciated.

Pleas see the links for images below

[dognose]

https://postimages.org (choose 'Share', then copy the 'Hotlink for forums' code) is recommended.

Remember to use the Preview feature.

Trev.

[DodgyBeast]

https://postimages.org (choose 'Share', then copy the 'Hotlink for forums' code) is recommended.

Remember to use the Preview feature.

Trev.

Ok let's see if it works now

[Juke*]

Hi!

It is always prefered to see also the object in addition to the markings. Assayed in Moscow by Lev Fridrikhovitch Oleks (ло, 1890-96) and with makers mark ИЛ.

The initial ИЛ is quite common, anyway best candidate to have been made in the Itska Losinsky workshop (1882-1908).

Regards,
Juke

[DodgyBeast]

Hi!

It is always prefered to see also the object in addition to the markings. Assayed in Moscow by Lev Fridrikhovitch Oleks (ло, 1890-96) and with makers mark ИЛ.

The initial ИЛ is quite common, anyway best candidate to have been made in the Itska Losinsky workshop (1882-1908).

Regards,
Juke

Thank you for your response

What about the initials П.К though? They don't seem to be in the database of maker's marks, but I'm unsure if that means they're not real or the maker is just obscure.

[dognose]

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Trev.

[Juke*]

The П.К would be Pavel Koshelev (1882-1896) in Moscow.

[Mart]

Hello!
1. Kostroma province, the beginning of the 20th century, workshop "ИР".
2. "ПК" Kashirin, Krutikov or Koshelev...although the latter worked more with bronze.
3. Perhaps Itska Lozinsky, the city of Tula. It is necessary to see the object itself.