Unknown Marks

[riggy]

Hi,
I'm at a loss having searched two main identification marks sites, including this one, for silver, silver plate, Old Sheffield and Coin. Being a retired English antique dealer later auctioneer I'm quite used to foraging for obscure marks but this has me stumped. Appears to be SA/SL, pig/boar or bear (?) and an L(?). If this piece was unmarked I would normally have classed this as 'mid-late Victorian English spirit kettle on stand, silver plated. However these marks in no way represent English silver or plate of the period. Thanks in advance.
Apologies for not having worked out how to post images directly.

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[dognose]

Hi,

Please embed your images. Very few members will click on such links.

https://postimages.org (choose 'Share', then copy the 'Hotlink for forums' code) is recommended.

Trev.

[riggy]

Hi,

Please embed your images. Very few members will click on such links.

https://postimages.org (choose 'Share', then copy the 'Hotlink for forums' code) is recommended.

Trev.

Thanks for the explanation and will gladly do that now if you can tell me where to find the Edit option as I've searched high and low.
Regards.
Adrian

[dognose]

Hi Adrian,

There is no edit option. Continuing with this topic will be fine.

Trev.

[riggy]

Thanks Trev.

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[Traintime]

Let's start with the basics. Therein, is there anything to confirm that the stand is not just mated here? If not, then we need to deal with the pot alone. What are the materials composing it's parts? Jumping ahead, this brings forth the question of the psuedo mark animal...could it be a left facing stopped bear in oval? The still bear was the original symbol of the Bear Flag Republic. Vanderslice used the walking bear version in their mark. But could someone in California have used the other bear, even just as a retail mark for goods produced by an eastern firm? All I can note at this point is that George Shreve entered into a partnership with Albert J. Lewis in 1881 for jewelry production with silversmithing added in 1883 (see Rainwater/Redfield). This factory was lost to fire in 1885, thus ending that short era. But what marks were in use for either maker or retailer? And did they deal in silverplate items at this time? We can't clearly read the first mark, but might it be "S&L"? All that said, the last mark ("L" in Octagon?) may have no meaning at all other than a pseudo to decieve. Now this is likely to be a case of barking up the wrong tree, but a stopped bear does not seem to fit anywhere else so far. Pigs & boars are another boatload altogether.