Candleholder, jugendstil. 900 silver. ID help please?

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Candleholder, jugendstil. 900 silver. ID help please?

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Hello,

This is approximately 7 cm tall and has the depicted marks. Can anyone identify the maker? I would be so very happy to find out.
Thank you very much for any help.

/Johan

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johanbergman
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GA Scheidt!

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Ok, I have now thanks to the very helpful friend SStempeln in Sweden, found more information. It seems the maker is GA Scheidt, Wienna.

I found this object to compare with.

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I am now looking for more information on who Scheidt was. Any and all help is welcome!
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Post by 2209patrick »

Hello. My book shows the name spelled George Adam Scheid. Not sure which is correct.
Located in Venna Austria and founded in 1862.
Famous for high quality enamelling.

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I'm sure someone else will come along and provide you with more information.

Pat.
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I managed to get a better image of the smaller marks.

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Post by 2209patrick »

Hello. The larger mark is an Austrian-Hungarian fineness mark indicating .900.
Used from April 1872 to May 1922.
The letter A indicates the assay office, Vienna.
Can't identify the other mark.

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Pat.
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Post by johanbergman »

Thank you. Yes the other ones are tricky. I have seen them on other Scheid pieces, at least the one with an A or possibly IA.
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hi

Post by charles-edwards »

the small a in the square means that it was hallmarked in the inner town - there was also another assay office a little outside the town ..
a very high quality Georg Adam Scheid Candlestick - nice item !!
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Post by Doos »

Hi charles-edwards,

My Tardy shows the A as being a Vienna mark for 1866 (which would be very early for this candle stick), next to it are a few other A's for 1872 and 1872-1901.
Could you shed some light on why those marks were used (inner-outer city) next to the newer hexagonal etc. marks?
Also what does the outer city mark look like and what is the name of the suburb(?). Photos/scans would be highly appreciated.

Thanks.
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Post by johanbergman »

Thank you for the information. It is truly much appreciated, and I too am curious to find out more.
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Post by Bahner »

Hello and congrats, beautiful piece.

As Germany never had import marks, I guess that halfmoon and crown were punched when this piece was sold in Germany. As to the “A” mark, supposedly for Vienna (the other Viennese mark mentioned in this thread was the “A 1” mark for the Wiener Neustadt): according to Knies (who should know, he was the first warden of the Austrian-Hungarian empire) it was struck as a separate mark beside the Diana head between 1866 and 1872 only. After that is was integrated with the Diana head and the number for fineness in one mark, as can be seen on this piece. So the “A” here stands for something else. What, I don’t know. It strongly reminds me of a Belgian mark for a silver fineness of 800/1000. Maybe the “Z” was used by a German seller.

As to Georg Adam Scheid: born 1838 (in Schönau, Germany), active since 1858 in the Viennese workshop of M. Markowitsch. Married one of Markowitsch’s daughters and joined the company, which was renamed Markowitsch & Scheid. The two separated in 1882, after that Markowitsch & Scheid was owned by Adolf Markowitsch alone (a son of M. Markowitsch, this company shut down in 1898), Scheid continued on his own, his company was named “G.A. Scheid”. He produced small silver ware and jewellery. In 1884 he opend up his own affinery (“G.A. Scheid’sche Affinerie”), which became very sucessful, which branches in various countries. Scheid retired in 1911 or 1912 (looks like he died in 1913), in 1920 the company “G.A. Scheid” merged with Ludwig Rainer (another affinery) in Vienna. Production of jewellery and silverware was given up at the end of 1922, the remaining workmen joined the Scheid’sche affinery. The affinery continued to exist and merged in 1952 with L. Rössler to form the “Ögussa GmbH”. Maybe it still exists today.

Best wishes, Bahner
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Thank you...

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...very much for the information! Now I have a story to go with my find!
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