Uknown mark on tea pot

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Ag1990
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Uknown mark on tea pot

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Hi! Does anyone know the mark on the far right?
From what I have gathered the tea pot was made in Germany (crescent + crown) in the late 1800s or early 1900s, then imported to the Austro-Hungarian Empire (A; import mark), but I haven't been able to find information on the last mark anywhere. To me it looks like a shield with three "dots" (apples?). Is it a towns mark?

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Upside down Hanau-pseudo mark [npr] for Kurtz & Co. found here: https://www.925-1000.com/Fgerman_hanau_marks_01.html
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Sorry,that’s Kurz.
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Skip all that..it’s not a match here. So, it just might be a real town mark.
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In the more common form, the third of three like objects goes to the base of the shield. This is completely reversed, assuming the objects are the same. That would have to be the key to identifying it, unless this were not a shield at all.
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Back to square 1….Why would the crown be sideways? Why does the crown seem to have pips rather than sections in the lower half? Could it be that this is not a crown at all?

This leads to…

Is that first mark even a crescent, or could it be a partial of something else?

Further,

If a shield contained three letters or objects, might there be a reason to rub out or destroy them while leaving the shield itself in relatively good form? And, could a town mark applied before 1886 be struck out by adding the new crescent/crown next to it.

{The import mark is 1891-1901 era, but the pot could have been made a few years earlier?}

As far as Hanau makers ever using this style of shouldered shield, we have a clean example of one such punch in the upper left corner of an image here (scroll down): https://www.925-1000.com/forum/viewtopi ... d7#p160564
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::::: Hanau makers like Kurz didn't have any hallmarking rules to obey, and they made so many different punches it's hard to keep up with all of them, so I don't see why this wouldn't be Kurz, and the addition of the "800" number is seen on Hanau silver objects, and the overall style of the punches makes me immediately think of Hanau silver (many of which are slightly crude, I'm not sure how else to say it, really). ::::::
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I found this today, someone is selling a silver milk jug with (I would say) identical hallmarks.
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I just assumed whoever hallmarked my teapot was just being sloppy and that is why the crescent is a bit funny looking and the crown is sideways 🤔.
I would agree that it is most likely Hanau silver.
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