Help wiith country of origin plz

[Jeffstreasures]

Love this Tea Set but don't recognize the marks, any help would be most appreciated.

[Ubaranda]

Hello!
I have the nice oriental box with the same mark and I also want to know its origin...

https://www.925-1000.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=62945

[Damon]

Hello

It is interesting that the same mark has surfaced twice recently.

It reads عمل جعفر, (?amal Jafer) or "made by Jafar". Could also be Jafary since the mark is well worn. This must be Persian or northern Indian.

There is a Persian silversmith named Jafary whose mark appears on the National Museum of Scotland site at https://www.nms.ac.uk/explore-our-colle ... ollection/

However, it is not the same mark as on these two pieces.

The figural representation on Ubaranda's piece with musicians and wine bearers has a strong Persian influence but the expected 84 purity mark is absent which makes me doubt Iran

The vine decoration on the tea set seems more Kashmiri. See examples at https://silverfromindia1850-1920.blogsp ... shmir.html, Also a three piece tea set is most certainly colonial and, on that count, India is more likely than Iran

Jeffstreasures - I can't make out what is in the small rectangular stamp. Can you post a crisper image?

Hope this prompts further discussion

Happy New Year

Damon

[JanGroen]

Hello

It is interesting that the same mark has surfaced twice recently.

It reads عمل جعفر, (?amal Jafer) or "made by Jafar". Could also be Jafary since the mark is well worn. This must be Persian or northern Indian.

There is a Persian silversmith named Jafary whose mark appears on the National Museum of Scotland site at https://www.nms.ac.uk/explore-our-colle ... ollection/

However, it is not the same mark as on these two pieces.

The figural representation on Ubaranda's piece with musicians and wine bearers has a strong Persian influence but the expected 84 purity mark is absent which makes me doubt Iran

The vine decoration on the tea set seems more Kashmiri. See examples at https://silverfromindia1850-1920.blogsp ... shmir.html, Also a three piece tea set is most certainly colonial and, on that count, India is more likely than Iran

Jeffstreasures - I can't make out what is in the small rectangular stamp. Can you post a crisper image?

Hope this prompts further discussion

Happy New Year

Damon

The mark looks like a French Weevil mark with iv beneath it.

Jannie

[oel]

French import mark, beneath the weevil perhaps a stylized letter N, symbol for the regional assay office Nice, used since 1838.

Source; International Hallmarks on Silver collected by Tardy page 201 France.


Peter.

[Damon]

Thanks very much Jannie and Peter.

If I come across any helpful information on these two items, I will post

Damon