Norwegian (?) ladle

Hose_dk · Post by **Hose_dk** » Sun Jun 24, 2007 11:46 am

I bought this ladle (grÃ¸dske in Danish) in Norway Trondheim. It comes from an old Trondheim home, but I do not think that it is from Trondheim.

The ladle is 39 cm long and is 160 grams.
Patern is Empire - age ? but early 1800 might be time - any sugestions?
The mix in patern Empire with the spoon drop pattern suggest Norway to me (but I might be incorrect).
Front

Back

patern and mark SH (wardein) SHR (silver smith)

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I have testet for silver and it out positive.
Can someone help me determine where it comes from and who made it and the name of wardein/guardein ? Any help will be most appresiatet.

Tosten · Post by **Tosten** » Thu Nov 01, 2007 4:43 pm

Hello
Do you know any more about your spoon? I'm not quite sure that it is norwegian. I can not get up the picture on my PC, but it is no guardein in Norway with SH mark and I can not find any goldsmith with SHR. Sorry.
Regards Tosten

Hose_dk · Post by **Hose_dk** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 4:11 am

Thanks for your try I will rush to add pictures - I hope that you know them.

I have not been able to find more information. But it was bought in Norway it is from early 1800 I am sure of that and it is correct that a guardein would set city and tax marks when setting mark.
The patern (engraving) could be norwegian.

Hose_dk · Post by **Hose_dk** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 4:18 am

The mark might even be SJHIR or a combination.
And it is also possible that the 2 marks are the same man. One mark for guardein and another for the guardein as silversmith. That combination is very likely for one of the smaler towns in Norway.

Tosten · Post by **Tosten** » Tue Nov 06, 2007 10:50 am

Goddag
hanks for the pictures, very clear and good.
The spoon looks very scandinavian, but I don't think it is norwegian.
If it was from Trondheim it should have had the townmark (Trondheimsrosen). It's no guardein in Trondheim or in Norway with one of that marks, and I can't find any norwegian silversmith with a mark like this.
Regards Tosten

Hose_dk · Post by **Hose_dk** » Tue Nov 06, 2007 4:23 pm

Tak for forsÃ¸get - that is danish for thanks for trying and a norwegian understand.
I know about the Trondheim mark and I soppose that one of the large cities Oslo (Christiania), Bergen and Trondheim is not the origin of the ladle.
Denmark I have searched - but in Denmark and Norway a lot of silvermarks are not identified.
Sweden is not an option. But Germany might be.

However as you say it looks Scandinavian - my guess will be an unidentified norwegian - because I have bought it in Norway.
But still other countries are a possibility.
Thanks again for trying.