Spoon: Bowl Back Marks 2 Unknowns

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This was with the two German spoons posted previously. The marks are nearly wiped out. One is a maker’s initials within a rectangle which might have had an additional letter or figural item (spacing seems too wide to be a central pellet). The other is just murder to read or photograph. Seems to hold a crossbar shape, like an “H”, with a letter “T” tucked underneath. In some images it looks like a small “K”sits to the upper right but I think this may just be a play of light effects. Overall, the punch is within a circular edge but that does not mean it was entirely rounded. Doesn’t really match anything from Hanau that I could see. Personalized as WFW scripted fancy. Pasting every bad image…Skills test time! TIA

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Further louping in strong light…the T has a perfectly rounded dot centered under it. Above the crossbar is tougher, possibly a triplet of X’s lined horizontally, but that may be delusional eyeballing. Perhaps this is a combination town/date code mark?

The maker seems to start with an “I” form, and ends with a “E” form. The center seems to be a blurred spot that might be just from a mis-strike of the punch on the curvature.

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Similar to a Hamburg set with Laue, but still too far off on the inconsistencies.

[Theoderich]

ICE = Johann Caspar Elwert in Tübingen, ca. 1850

I.C.Elwert was born on 7.November 1786 in Reutlingen
as a son of Johann Caspar Elwert a goldsmith in Reutlingen

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Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner!! Thank you Theo. Well played. Samples of Tubingen town marks (c/o Theo) are shown here: viewtopic.php?p=123699&hilit=tubingen#p123699

Third mark is clearly the same type, and oh so close to Reutlingen where the unknown “AB” spoon came from: