Norwegian maker's mark help needed

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NorskyGal
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Norwegian maker's mark help needed

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This looks like a very traditional Norwegian sølje to me and I'm hoping it is. It's marked 830S G.R. or possibly 830S G.B. It's hard to tell what the last letter is that overlays the diagonal pattern of the piece. Either way, I can't find a Norwegian maker with either of those marks. I can, however, find both a GB and a GR maker's mark under the Danish section. ("GB" = George Binau of Copenhagen, 1893-1937; and "GR" = Gert Rasmussen of Copenhagen, 1983-1991.) The diameter of the piece is 1-⅜ inches. Could this be a Danish sølje? I only have one Danish piece and it's a very delicate piece with many "dangles." If it's Norwegian, can anyone help with the maker?
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Mind my saying but in my eyes it looks more like G.H.. What makes it difficult is the incomplete marking... Anyway, it could be Gunnulf Hegna in Oslo NO 1945-1986, but....?
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Qrt.S wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2024 3:15 am ...it looks more like G.H.. What makes it difficult is the incomplete marking... Anyway, it could be Gunnulf Hegna in Oslo NO 1945-1986....
You could very well be correct. The fact that the last letter is overlapping that diagonal embossing makes it very difficult to read. But the fact that it very could well be an "H" and that you know of a Norwegian silversmith with the initials G.H. is very helpful. I tried Googling this person (even using Google.no) but couldn't really find any good information. If the business still existed I could try sending them a message to get their opinion. But because they're not, I am going to go with your suggestion of Gunnulf Hegna and note that it's not certain, but highly probable. I thank you very much.I appreciate you taking the time to reply to my post.
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My pleasure. I forgot to mention that he was born 1914, unfortunately that is all I know. Couldn't either find any useful information in internet or other sources. Maybe someone else can fill in the "blanks".
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There appears to be two goldsmiths using a similar mark at the same time and perhaps a dispute. I found this incomplete snippet:

Under granskingen kom det for en dag et gullsmed Gunnulf Hegna , Oslo , siden 1945 , og lengre enn søkeren , hadde brukt bok- stavene G. H. som stemplingsmerke for sine varer . Patentstyret fant de to merker egnet til forveksling , og at de derfor ikke burde kunne anvendes ved siden av hverandre. Søkerans merke ble ..........

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During the investigation, it was discovered that a goldsmith, Gunnulf Hegna, from Oslo, had been using the letters G. H. as a hallmark for his goods since 1945, and longer than the applicant. The Norwegian Patent Office found the two marks to be likely to be confused, and that they should therefore not be used alongside each other. The applicant's mark was .........

Source: Nordiskt immateriellt rättsskydd - Volume 38 - 1969

Does anybody have access to a copy of this publication?

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I dug some more and found conflicting information. One source tells me that Gustav Wilhelm Hellstrøm born around 1839 in Södertälje /SE. He move to Stavanger/NO and became goldsmith there 15.2.1868. He punched GH in oval frame (with no dots) and GHOLMSTRØM in frame with rounded corners. The other source tells that he punched four leaves in an oval frame and nothing else.

He had a son Gustav Fredrik born 1878 and dead 1965. His son continued with the business in the workshop to 1957 when the company ceased to exist. In 1953 the son was 75 years. Anyway it looks like the company at some stage punched GH&C (maybe someone else continued??).

I cannot find anything on Internet and I don't know more or what is the actual truth??? Something is not in place here.
Sources: NORSK SØLV vol.1 p.439 and NORSKE GULL- SØLVSTEMPLER GJENNOM TIDENE p.155.

Also take a look: viewtopic.php?p=59927&hilit=hellstrom#p59927

This is all I know and it is a mess....
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Re: Norwegian maker's mark help needed

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Thank you for the replies. I will note both of these makers as it looks like the brooch can be attributed to either one. Thank you!!
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