Pre-Revolutionary French Gold Hallmark Experts Here?

[Dannd]

Hi All,

I am hoping someone here is an expert on pre-revolutionary French gold hallmarks (or has more books than I do) who can help me figure out who this makers mark is for? It is on a gold perfume bottle lid and I managed to find the "discharge" hallmark (itty-bitty) for 1727-1732 (Jacques Cottin) but for the life of me I cannot figure out WHAT the first worn letter is which is making it impossible to find the maker. The last letter appears to be an M. The only goldsmith I can find with the last name starting with an M who made very very similar perfume bottle lids in that time period is Louis Mailly but the first letter doesn't look like an L to me.

Now, I know that it looks like a J but I don't believe it is a J because A) It would make the J a lot smaller than the M but B) it's also missing the top horizontal bar the J would have in that font type (see the link) (https://i.pinimg.com/736x/f3/74/3f/f374 ... 31c198.jpg)

If anyone can figure out what is the center symbol I will give you bonus points! I tried looking through "French Master Goldsmiths" book but couldn't find a match. So, if anyone has Henri Nocqs hallmark book I would greatly appreciate it!

I know this is single image area but due to the fact its not clear I have included a few photos of different angles (I hope that is okay!). Hopefully they are clear enough to see. Thank you! (cant figure out why its not embedding)
https://imgur.com/a/JzXJQAv
https://imgur.com/ZuvquQj
https://imgur.com/TLt3LXe

[dognose]

Hi,

Please embed your images as very few members will click on such links.

https://postimages.org (choose 'Share', then copy the 'Hotlink for forums' code) is recommended. Do not use Photobucket or Dropbox.

Trev.

[Dannd]

My apologizes

[Dannd]

Any ideas??

[Bru5no]

Hi,

Joseph Malherbe, "JM, un lézard" in Nocq, worked 1720-1752. He made small objects. His mark is not reproduced by Nocq. Could the symbol in your photos be a lizard seen from top ?

[Dannd]

Hi,

Joseph Malherbe, "JM, un lézard" in Nocq, worked 1720-1752. He made small objects. His mark is not reproduced by Nocq. Could the symbol in your photos be a lizard seen from top ?

THANK YOU! You nailed it. Even without seeing the mark! It is definitely him, I found almost identical scent bottle toppers made by him -

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[Dannd]

Okay I included the link to bottle I found by the goldsmith as I wanted to include all the information concerning it but I guess that's against the rules so I'll just include the photo only.