please help identify hallmarks on silver galleon

wills · Post by **wills** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 7:37 am

there are two sets of hallmarks on this galleon, the one that is unidentified is the left hand one of the lower image. If anyone can help identify it's origin and the likely history of the galleon we would be very pleased to know.
many thanks

wolfgang · Post by **wolfgang** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 8:22 am

Hi, this looks very much like"Neresheimer", german silver factory, founded 1890 in Hanau; lot of marks, but the makers mark is probably the "n" for Neresheimer...
regards wolfgang

wills · Post by **wills** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 1:55 pm

thank you very much for your quick reply - I will look into Neresheimer
thanks

wills · Post by **wills** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 2:29 pm

Does anybody recognise the other hallmark to the left of the 'N' - sorry about the focus but the hallmark is worn so hard to see the detail.

Post by **admin** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 8:34 pm

That is a pseudomark imitating the old town mark for Hanau.
Regards, Tom

wills · Post by **wills** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 8:32 am

Thank you so much for the help with this hallmark - is this ship an example of a german silver nef?

wolfgang · Post by **wolfgang** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 8:55 am

To complete info, in the upper row of marks you find the import mark for London and the mark for 1927 "m" regards

Bahner · Post by **Bahner** » Mon Jan 07, 2008 11:02 am

Hello, an original photograph of this piece, dated 1902, still exists in the Neresheimer archive. Similiars nefs were made in Augsburg or Darmstadt (and most likely in NÃ¼rnberg and other cities as well) in the early 17th century. It is currently not known, whether this was modeled after an old original (which still might exist somewehere - at least it was not in Neresheimer’s own collection) or whether this is a combination of elements found on various old pieces. Best wishes, Bahner

wills · Post by **wills** » Wed Jan 09, 2008 7:50 am

Hi Bahner
Thank you for your reply, we appreciate your time. Very interesting to hear that this piece is in the Neresheimer archives, you say dated 1902, is that the photograph or the piece? Do you know if it is possible to access these archives online as we would love to see an original photograph. We would be very interested in any other information you have. Thanks again!

Bahner · Post by **Bahner** » Thu Jan 10, 2008 6:47 am

Hello, the photograph was published in 1992 in the book "Tafel- und Schausilber des Historismus aus Hanau" by B.-W. Thiele. Thiele just mentioned the date 1902 without further explanation. I cannot post the photo as the publisher still has the copyright on it. I don't know where the Neresheimer archive is today, sorry. Best wishes, Bahner