Knife Hallmark-Help Needed -Crowned Lion & Duty Head ?

pauline5555 · Post by **pauline5555** » Mon Sep 01, 2008 7:35 pm

Hello-

I have come across this knife and have had trouble identifying the hallmarks. I feel they are a bit conflicted. I think the lion passant is crowned but I can't be sure. I haven't seen another like it, but then there is a duty profile head and no city or town hallmark.

Can someone help me identify this knife, possibly an age and maker, etc.
Thanks
Pauline

buckler · Post by **buckler** » Tue Sep 02, 2008 4:16 am

Look first at style - put a mental date on it.
Next look at marks. First re-action - the lion faces the wrong way, but the other marks include a duty head of George III.
Style seems wrong for period of Duty mark, lion passant is wrong for any English assay office post 1784 . Marks are very crisp and unworn for Georgian silver.
Conclusion. Psuedo marks or very poor fake.
Sorry !
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pauline5555 · Post by **pauline5555** » Tue Sep 02, 2008 8:38 am

Using all of my mental energy, but still want to know a little more. Someone made it and it wasn't me. Is there anthing you may be able to tell me about the maker's mark. The other thing I thought was odd is that the lion passant is crowned and the other direction.

So if it is a fake, it's a fake what from when. Thanks
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Post by **dragonflywink** » Tue Sep 02, 2008 9:46 am

Pauline, if you'll note, your post was moved to the American Coin Silver Forum. Not really my area and can't help you with the maker, but your piece is not a fake, it bears typical American pseudo-marks. Hopefully someone will be along to ID your maker and his working dates.

~Cheryl
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Post by **2209patrick** » Tue Sep 02, 2008 3:39 pm

Hello.

Reminds me of some mid 19th century Canadian psuedo marks that I have seen.

Just as an example, the mark of Franz Meyer, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada:

Checked my Canadian and American 19th century references, but could not find your mark.

Pat.
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Post by **dragonflywink** » Tue Sep 02, 2008 4:01 pm

Heh, was just pondering on the mark, thinking that it looked so familiar and was going to suggest it might be a Canadian maker.

~Cheryl
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Post by **dognose** » Thu Sep 04, 2008 5:57 pm

Hi,

Just a shot in the dark, there was a Henry Davis working in Ontario c.1850.

Trev.
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wev · Post by **wev** » Thu Sep 04, 2008 6:42 pm

The FM example is Frederick Marquand, well known, well documented.
The retailer of the knife is Henry Dennery, working c 1810-1820 in New York City.
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