American spoon?

clown123 · Post by **clown123** » Mon May 11, 2009 11:02 pm

I have absolutely no idea of the provenance of this spoon. Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks!

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Post by **dognose** » Tue May 12, 2009 2:09 am

Hi Cliff,

They are American pseudo marks, imitating English hallmarks.

Check out Baldwin Gardiner & Co.:
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Trev.
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Farmer Giles · Post by **Farmer Giles** » Tue May 12, 2009 3:42 am

Hi Trevor,
Why are there two makers marks shown? Did either (or both!) of them have anything to do with making this spoon?
Giles
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Post by **dognose** » Tue May 12, 2009 3:59 am

Hi Giles,

Welcome to the Forum.

I do not know who 'H & N' are, but suspect they were the retailers of this spoon. The positioning of the marks would indicate that the 'B.G.& Co.' mark was struck prior to the 'H & N' mark, therefore 'B.G.& Co.' is most likely to be the maker.

Trev.
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clown123 · Post by **clown123** » Tue May 12, 2009 8:15 am

Trev,

Thanks for the update. Any idea of when this was made?

Cliff
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Post by **dognose** » Tue May 12, 2009 1:02 pm

Hi Cliff,

It looks like the spoon was made between 1827 and 1848, check out this this site for a full rundown

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Trev.
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Post by **admin** » Tue May 12, 2009 3:56 pm

The H & N mark appears to be a mark of Hyde & Nevins, which creates a bit of a conflict in dates. The H&N firm was supposed to have been dissolved by 1820, when J.N. Hyde relocated to New Orleans to fully take up his duties in the partnership of Hyde & Goodrich, which had been operating there since 1816.

Perhaps the H&N partnership continued on for a few years without the constant physical presence of Hyde or maybe Gardiner bought out the old stock of H&N. American fiddle pattern spoons that lack shoulders above the bowl, as this example does, tend to be thought of as the earliest version and that would pre-date 1820.

Interesting little mystery.

Regards, Tom

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American spoon?

American spoon?

Pseudo Hallmarks