Russian fish knives - St Petersberg - assayer?

[Salisbury]

I believe these fish knives (165 mm long) to be from St Petersberg, maker Vladimir Morozov, but his name on each knife appears to obliterate a previous stamp which cannot be read. The Kokoshnik stamp seems to be upside down, and includes what looks like the letters AP, which I think is A. Riktera.
Also, does anyone know which way up the crest should be? and is it associated with the maker, the assayer, or possibly the owner or retailer.


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[Qrt.S]

Yes they are from St Petersburg. Very famous company this Morozov. As I mentioned in my other answers to you, forget A. Richter, it is Aleksandr Romanov who is the assayer. The engraved initials belong to the owner of the knives, who that is, is a good question. Are the knives inherited or family treasures or have you just bought them? Any clues?

Turn the engraving 90 degrees ccw and maybe you can read a French name G de T.... just guesses from me :-)
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[Salisbury]

Thanks, Qrt.S.
The knives (x12) and other items of Russian silver have been inherited, but there is no connection with Russia that we know of.
I am intrigued by the crest on the knife blades, it looks like the Russian Imperial crest. Would it be part of Morozov's company insignia, or could it have Imperial connections? I'll add a better picture:

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[Qrt.S]

The double headed eagle is a part of the Morozov mark. When a Russian silver smith became a supplier to the imperial court, he was allowed to use this mark on his products. However, it doesn't mean that such a piece was used by the emperor or his family, not even in the court. It is just a mark with no other imperial connections.

It is very VERY rare almost impossible that somebody has a genuine imperial piece in his possession. A pie in the sky I would say.
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