Help with maker on this spoon T.D

[cheita25]

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[Theoderich]

it is french (1798-1809)
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[JAKJO]

Hi and welcome to the forum Cheita25,

There is a hatchet; the Dutch duty-free mark used on old silver 1853-1927
and the French guarantee mark (Fasces) for small objects used in the period you, Theoderich, stated.



I have no idea about the mark below the maker's mark "TD".

Best regards/JAKJO
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[cheita25]

then what year were they made 1798-1809 or 1850's ?
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[JAKJO]

Hi,

The spoon is made between 1798 and 1809, and later re-assayed in The Netherlands.

I find it a bit tricky to assure you that it is "French", because it was made when Napoleon ruled over The Netherlands, Belgium and parts of Italy and Germany and the napoleonic silver marking regime was introduced in several parts of Europe. The lozenge-shaped maker's marks are typical French.

I would like to request another and better picture of the unidentified mark.

Best regards/JAKJO
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[cheita25]

Ok cool this becoming a fun project for me. I also noticed 4 spoons in the lot of 12 that have completely different makers & hallmarks .... strange maybe replacements I will get new photos added asap
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[cheita25]

Ok, Here are 3 different makers and hallmarks for the same exact pattern spoons. hope that makes sense because I know nothing about this but learning is allways fun.






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[Theoderich]

nice Maker GCF ?

Date-Letter a = 1807/08
, Zwolle, 10 penningen = 833/1000.

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[JAKJO]

Hi,

Having seen the new pictures I am convinced that I have to move your question to the Dutch section. The reason is that there is a 10 penningen-mark used between 1807-1812 for 833/1000 pure silver and a bird mark (Ooievaar) a stork that was used in The Hague/Den Haag in The Netherlands.

Best regards/JAKJO
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[cheita25]

Any information on the makers are they unknown any ideas ?
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[cheita25]

Thomas dicks or Thomas daniell could T.D from a netherlands marked piece have been made by him ? I have found Gerrit Christoffel Fels made one of my spoons but the rest are marked T.D rather then GCF and the date letter shows 1807 with a stork showing the spoons are dutch I'm confused.
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