Russian large spoons - St Petersburg - assayer? monogram?

Salisbury · Post by **Salisbury** » Sun Jul 26, 2009 11:50 pm

I believe these large spoons (215 mm long) to be from St Petersberg, maker A. Liubavin, with an assayer of AH. Can anyone identify AH? and the monogram?

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Qrt.S · Post by **Qrt.S** » Mon Jul 27, 2009 4:12 am

The manufacturing silver company is as you mention A. Ljubawin (Aleksandr Benediktovitsh) founded 1893 in St. Petersburg. The AH (AN) is not the assayer but the maker, unfortunately unkown to me. The assayer's initials AP (AR) are behind the kokoshnik. He is Aleksandr Romanov in St.P.
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Salisbury · Post by **Salisbury** » Tue Jul 28, 2009 12:12 am

Thanks again, Qrt.S, for supplying so much info.
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Qrt.S · Post by **Qrt.S** » Fri Jul 31, 2009 3:53 am

Very sorry, but I cannot find any suitable AH/AN. Unfortunately there are are lot of unidentified makers in Russia in particular the closer you are to the revolution. Let's hope somebody else can come up with a name.
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Post by **admin** » Fri Jul 31, 2009 12:28 pm

Hi,
The crossbar on the A looks very low, perhaps it is DN, not AN?

Regards, Tom
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Qrt.S · Post by **Qrt.S** » Mon Aug 03, 2009 2:43 am

Yeah.. could be DN. There is one possibility, a Dimitri Nikolajevitsh Nikolajev. He had a silver factory i StP around the turn of the century, but...
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Postnikov · Post by **Postnikov** » Sat Oct 31, 2009 1:37 pm

HI -
the maker is Nasedkin Aleksej Ivanowitsch 1883-1908

Hope this helps
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Qrt.S · Post by **Qrt.S** » Sun Nov 01, 2009 11:36 am

Yes Nasedkin had his own silver workshop on Zagorodny pr. 10 in St Peterburg, but did he work for Ljubawin is a good question-
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Postnikov · Post by **Postnikov** » Sun Nov 01, 2009 1:58 pm

Hi-
Ljubavin was a manufacturer anddealer. He was specialiced on other things than spoons but wanted to participate on the existing business. Silverfactories of that time had many suppliers of things they do not made and were not afraid to show the punch of the person who made it - if it met the quality standards they had. Exampel: FabergÃ© + RÃ¼ckert, Ilbin + Muromkin, Lorie + Tscherjatov, Nemirov-Kolodkin + Kazakov etc, etc.
This was everywhere in the world usus - remember the flatware in USA, Germany, France, GB etc.

Regards
Postnikov
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Qrt.S · Post by **Qrt.S** » Sun Nov 01, 2009 2:19 pm

Yes true, but you didn't answer my actual question. Do you know or are you only anticipating that Nasedkin because of the matching initials really worked for or was a supplier to Ljubavin? I have no notes of Nasedkin being a supplier to a court supplier like Ljubavin. Usually such suppliers are listed or at least know.

But as you said; "you learn every day" I probably have to update my files depending on your answer. Thank you in advance for this information.
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