Does anyone know what is this piece?

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SergioCoelho
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Does anyone know what is this piece?

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Does anyone know what is this piece?

I know it's russian from S.Petersburg 1836 silversmith Johann Fridrik Akerblom
but I do not know what it is.

Can somebody help me ?

Thanks,

Sergio Coelho
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Re: Does anyone know what is this piece?

Post by oel »

Hi,

Looking at your oversized photo’s I feel a bit awkward. I see a hexagram, David star, Salomon’s seal or six pointed star and rats, one using his 'hands' to keep his eye and ear closed and the other looks like he is holding a scroll and we see a double headed eagle, does the holder contains a fluid to protects us against …… I hope their must be a better explanation. Look forward to learn more.

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Post by Postnikov »

Hi -
what you have is a Judaica, one of the countless fakes of Besomim-boxes (spice-boxes, spice-towers etc.) since years on sale in online auctions. Spice-boxes, spice-towers etc. were filled with Havdalah spices (besomim), mostly a sweet smelling mixture of cloves and haddasim (myrtle leaves) , for ceremonial purposes like Shabbat.
All the marks and the design are phantasy or lookalikes. This object is mostly listed as "Inkwell" or "Besomim" box.

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Re: Does anyone know what is this piece?

Post by silverport »

A recently made sand castor — for the uprising market of a pseudo »Judaism«?

Hello Sergio

It seems to me a recently made item for the uprising market of a pseudo »Judaism«.

The central corpus could be a copy of to be a sand castorfor to dry just with ink written “text”; usual until XIX century. If my guess is correct, then there must be below the flapping lid a removablesieve”; and the lid must be marked too.

I’ve my doubts that the item would be in his whole a copy of a historical item — instead of this, it seems to me, to be a composition of fantasy.

Rats, in the Jewish belief an impure animal, set in relation to David’s star and the Russian eagle. One of the rats acts like as the “wise monkeys” — the other like as a climbing ships carpenter with his axe (an illustration on town’s founder, the Tsar »Peter the Great«?).

Or more precise, as already »oel« was wondering, a discriminating caricature?!

I’m wondering too, how the marks were struck on the flat surface itself; like as a decorative texture — and the »St. Petersburg« marks punch looks like to be recently made by a not experienced engraver.

Subjective resume: I state, it’s a modern caricature.

Kind regards silverport
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Re: Does anyone know what is this piece?

Post by SergioCoelho »

Hello,

thanks for help,

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best regards,

Sergio Coelho
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