Miles
18th Century Dutch Spoon
18th Century Dutch Spoon
Can anyone identify these four marks? The spoon seems to have been later gilded.
Miles
Miles
Re: 18th Century Dutch Spoon
Hello Miles,
Perhaps top from left to right: crowned lion rampant for the province control mark, makers’ mark (?) Bottom left to right: date letter (?) Andreas- crosses crowned (?) for Amsterdam.
Pseudo/ fake marks? I am not sure wait and see what the others say.
Regards,
Oel
Perhaps top from left to right: crowned lion rampant for the province control mark, makers’ mark (?) Bottom left to right: date letter (?) Andreas- crosses crowned (?) for Amsterdam.
Pseudo/ fake marks? I am not sure wait and see what the others say.
Regards,
Oel
Re: 18th Century Dutch Spoon
The spoon and the hallmarks look quite genuine to me. I do own an almost Identical spoon also made in Amsterdam in 1685 with the makers mark IA. But the makers mark is different from yours.
My spoon was once part of the collection of Uitterwaall and attributed tot Jurgen Arents.
Your spoon looks like it was made in 1683 in Amsterdam by another maker and maybe Julius Acker is an option, but I don´t have a picture of his hallmark.
My spoon was once part of the collection of Uitterwaall and attributed tot Jurgen Arents.
Your spoon looks like it was made in 1683 in Amsterdam by another maker and maybe Julius Acker is an option, but I don´t have a picture of his hallmark.
Re: 18th Century Dutch Spoon
Thank you both very much for your thoughts.
Miles
Miles
Re: 18th Century Dutch Spoon
Can you also post a picture of the backside of the stem because replicas are often quite different from the 18 century spoons.
Re: 18th Century Dutch Spoon
Hi Margaux,
Here is a photo of the back. Can you please tell us the differences in stems between replicas and originals?
Miles
Here is a photo of the back. Can you please tell us the differences in stems between replicas and originals?
Miles
Re: 18th Century Dutch Spoon
Hello Miles,
Many of the replicas spoons have stems which are flat, not very well finished at the backside. Your spoon is also elegant and almost identical on the backside with my spoon. I´m sure yours is also a genuine antique spoon with the figure having the symbols for peace.
Geert
Many of the replicas spoons have stems which are flat, not very well finished at the backside. Your spoon is also elegant and almost identical on the backside with my spoon. I´m sure yours is also a genuine antique spoon with the figure having the symbols for peace.
Geert
Re: 18th Century Dutch Spoon
Hi,
Just a thought. Would it not make more sense if the hallmarks were punched in a vertical row on the stem of the spoon. Instead of on the bowl? Or was it perhaps common practice in the 18th century to have the hallmarks punched like we see on the spoon. Also the date letter looks a bit odd to me and are the Adreas-crosses with or without a Crown?
Kind regards,
Oel
Just a thought. Would it not make more sense if the hallmarks were punched in a vertical row on the stem of the spoon. Instead of on the bowl? Or was it perhaps common practice in the 18th century to have the hallmarks punched like we see on the spoon. Also the date letter looks a bit odd to me and are the Adreas-crosses with or without a Crown?
Kind regards,
Oel
Re: 18th Century Dutch Spoon
Hi,
Herewith I partly answer my own question. It was not uncommon to have the marks punched on the spoon bowl. Please compare the marks of an Enkhuizen spoon and Amsterdam with the smirched odd looking marks on your spoon. We also know that during the end of the 19th century plenty of replicas were made for the British market.
Those replicas were much better made than the one offered today at eBay.
A Dutch silver gilt spoon.
Made in Enkhuizen, 1751.
Length 7.5" (19cm). Weight 1.89 Troy oz (59gr)
Meesterteken Jacobus van Resant, Amsterdam, jaarletter 1724
Kind regards,
Oel
Herewith I partly answer my own question. It was not uncommon to have the marks punched on the spoon bowl. Please compare the marks of an Enkhuizen spoon and Amsterdam with the smirched odd looking marks on your spoon. We also know that during the end of the 19th century plenty of replicas were made for the British market.
Those replicas were much better made than the one offered today at eBay.
A Dutch silver gilt spoon.
Made in Enkhuizen, 1751.
Length 7.5" (19cm). Weight 1.89 Troy oz (59gr)
Meesterteken Jacobus van Resant, Amsterdam, jaarletter 1724
Kind regards,
Oel