Hello
I have this nice box can you please help me id the marks?
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Helo with Nice Box
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this sugar box is from Hamburg
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an other mark of Heinrich Diederich Schmeckpeper
Letter A ca. 1840
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a information from a friend:
Shown is here the little version of Hamburg' warden mark ,A' - of the period 19 April 1828 - 30 August 1851 - Warden: Jacob Nicolaus Wilhelm Schäffer.
The case was made in the workshop of the concession-holder '46' (lozenge mark with '46'). Concession-holders were gold- and/or silversmiths which haven't had an own master-workshop; both were limited in Hamburg. A concession-holder wasn't permitted the direct production or sale to the public. They were a kind of subcontractors. Theirs production was sale only via registered master-workshop; in this case via Hinrich Diederich Schmeckpeper.
Concession-holder '46' was NICOLAUS HINRICH WOHLERS. His concession he has got on 29 August 1831, it seems to have got them first as a Goldsmith. From 1835 until 1844 he is noticed as a concession workshop with two to three additional journeymen. He is born on 12 May 1801 in Billwärder, a rural northern area of Hamburg Township [since 1395]. N.H. Wohlers got citizenship of Hamburg on 11 May 1832 as a Gold- and Silversmith. After the decease of the Hamburg Gold- and Silversmith' Guild he became in 1865 member of their new founded Corporation. He is in 1869 noticed in the towns Address guide.
Shown is here the little version of Hamburg' warden mark ,A' - of the period 19 April 1828 - 30 August 1851 - Warden: Jacob Nicolaus Wilhelm Schäffer.
The case was made in the workshop of the concession-holder '46' (lozenge mark with '46'). Concession-holders were gold- and/or silversmiths which haven't had an own master-workshop; both were limited in Hamburg. A concession-holder wasn't permitted the direct production or sale to the public. They were a kind of subcontractors. Theirs production was sale only via registered master-workshop; in this case via Hinrich Diederich Schmeckpeper.
Concession-holder '46' was NICOLAUS HINRICH WOHLERS. His concession he has got on 29 August 1831, it seems to have got them first as a Goldsmith. From 1835 until 1844 he is noticed as a concession workshop with two to three additional journeymen. He is born on 12 May 1801 in Billwärder, a rural northern area of Hamburg Township [since 1395]. N.H. Wohlers got citizenship of Hamburg on 11 May 1832 as a Gold- and Silversmith. After the decease of the Hamburg Gold- and Silversmith' Guild he became in 1865 member of their new founded Corporation. He is in 1869 noticed in the towns Address guide.
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Re: Helo with Nice Box
Thanks Very Much, Can you give the name of the book you have it from?
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there are two books
Wolfgang Scheffler
Goldschmiede Niedersachsens
Daten Werke Zeichen
(I) Aerzen-Hamburg/ (II) Hameln-Zellerfeld 1965
Walter de Gruyter & Co - Berlin
and
Erich Schliemann,
Die Goldschmiede Hamburgs, Band II
Hamburg 1985
Wolfgang Scheffler
Goldschmiede Niedersachsens
Daten Werke Zeichen
(I) Aerzen-Hamburg/ (II) Hameln-Zellerfeld 1965
Walter de Gruyter & Co - Berlin
and
Erich Schliemann,
Die Goldschmiede Hamburgs, Band II
Hamburg 1985