Help with Identity of Coat of Arms - 1796 London

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enorman66
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Help with Identity of Coat of Arms - 1796 London

Post by enorman66 »

I bought these two gravy boats at auction and need help identifying the markings on it. One side is coat of arms the other seems to be some sort of bird. I have tried to do the research but it is hard to find this info without a name.

My research has shown that the sterling boats were made in London 1796 by Henry Chawner and John Emes.

Any help would be appreciated! :)

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Re: Help with Identity of Coat of Arms - 1796 London

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This is difficult because of a lack of detail and too many choices. Is the bird an eagle or a dove or something else? What is in its beak, a sprig of laurel, an olive branch, an ear of wheat? Also the shield doesn't show any color, ie: horizontal lines for blue, vertical lines for red, etc. Should the charges be called sheaves, wheat sheaves, garbs? Here is the best I can find from The British Herald by Thomas Robson- Arms: Gules (red) a chevron Ermine (spotted fur) between the garbs Or (gold). Crest: On a mount Vert (green), a dove rising with wings expanded, in the beak an olive-branch. This is attributed to the family HILL of Pounsford and Taunton in Somershire. There are many, many families named Hill and I could only find Henry Seymour McCalmont-Hill, who was a mayor in Bournemouth in the early 1900s who was using that crest. However I could be wrong, the shield might be a different color, the wheat might be silver, not gold, etc, but it may start you on the right track. Cheers.
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Re: Help with Identity of Coat of Arms - 1796 London

Post by enorman66 »

My best guess from viewing the item is that the bird is either an eagle or hawk based on its head and eyes. The item it is carrying does look more like olive leaves but the crest on the other side of the item looks like haystacks so am not sure. I tried to find something associated with haystacks, if that is even what they are and couldn't find anything.

Thanks so very much for all your help. I hope someone is able to nail this down for me :)
God Bless!!
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