SMALL ROUND BOX

[philo]

Can anyone please help me identify exactly what the item is, style and specifics on the design (does it have any masonic interest?), maker, date when made, origin?

On the inside there appears to be a shade of gold. Is this gold gilt? The stamps on the lid and base are different (though the maker 'SP' is the same).

The hallmarks to the lid are very small, indeed. The maker mark appears to be 'IET' or 'LET' in a rectangular stamp. The hallmarks appear to be a head looking to the right, a crown, a lion and the date letter 'i'.

The inscription on the inside of the lid is dated 1850.

Has the silver been machine turned to get the circular design to it?

Any help would be much appreciated.

With all of the items I have listed, I have done my own preliminary research to some avail, but would like some expert , experienced opinions especially in relation to dates.

Thanks to all who contribute












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[georgiansilver]

The bottom part of this Georgian Patch box was made in Birmingham in 1808/9 by the famous silversmith Samuel Pemberton....... I am unable to make out the marks on the lid from your photo... could you please post some more that are a little more revealing.
Best wishes, Mike.
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[MCB]

Hello Philo,
The disc on the box top was probably sent to London assay by John E Terry. Unfortunately this mark was in use for a cosiderable time so it wont be possible to estimate the date of the disc without the clearer images the other Mike has asked you for.
It follows that the disc and the lid are a marriage. There's nothing wrong in that.
The inscription is clearly of later date than the box.
I can't comment on the style of the disc design.
I'ts quite possible the circular design was machine produced but hand crafting isn't out of the question.
I don't know why the interior should be gilded (thin layer of gold) if it is a patch box. Gilding would suggest whatever the box was intended for would tarnish the silver. Scent or snuff are common reasons.
Hope this helps.

The Other Mike
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[blakstone]

I can answer one of your questions. The design on the lid is not masonic but rather the arms of the Worshipful Company of Vintners, the eleventh of the twelve great livery companies. Perhaps Mr. Fuller or Mr. Lawrence (or both) were members.
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